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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:37:37 -0700
Message-ID: <20180429233737.GD16033@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201804292207.26775.linux@rainbow-software.org>

On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 10:07:26PM +0200, Ondrej Zary wrote:
> On Sunday 29 April 2018 14:07:05 Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 08:11:08AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > On Wed 2018-04-25 08:46:02, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > Recently ncpfs got moved to staging.  Also recently, we had some fuzzer
> > > > developers report bugs in hfs, which they deem a security hole because
> > > > Ubuntu attempts to automount an inserted USB device as hfs.
> > >
> > > We promise "no-regressions" for code in main repository, no such
> > > promise for staging. We have quite a lot of code without maintainer.
> > >
> > > Moving code to staging means it will get broken -- staging was not
> > > designed for this. I believe moving anything there is bad idea.
> > >
> > > Staging is for ugly code, not for code that needs new maintainter.
> >
> > Staging is used for getting code _out_ of the kernel tree as well as
> > _in_.  We use it all the time to move code there, see if anyone shows up
> > in 6-8 months to say "I will fix this!", and if not, we delete it.
> >
> > Look at what just happened to IRDA in the 4.17-rc1 release as an example
> > of this.
> 
> Really a "great" example of deleting working code :( 

What do you mean?  The irda code was broken and not working at all.
There were loads of bug reports about it for years, with no developers
or maintainers willing to do the work on it to get it to actually work
again.

If someone does want to step up and do it, great!  It's a simple revert
of two git commits and they are back in business.

Dropping code from the tree is not like it is gone for forever.  If
someone wants to pick it up, it is trivial to do so.  Git is good :)

thanks,

greg k-h

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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-25 15:46 Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-25 15:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 20:30 ` David Sterba
2018-04-26  2:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-26 10:28     ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-26 10:45       ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-04-26 10:59         ` David Sterba
2018-04-26 11:06           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06  0:59         ` Al Viro
2018-05-06  7:40           ` Al Viro
2018-05-06 20:46             ` Al Viro
2018-05-06 20:49               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06 21:32               ` Al Viro
2018-05-07  2:15                 ` Al Viro
2018-05-07  2:40                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-05-07  7:08                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-05-07 20:50                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-05-07 20:56                         ` Ingo Jürgensmann
2018-05-07 20:58                           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06  8:40           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06 10:12           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-26 11:00       ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 11:08       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-26 23:56         ` Finn Thain
2018-04-27  1:43           ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? jdow
2018-04-27  1:26         ` jdow
2018-05-06  8:52           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06 10:10             ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-05-07  4:54             ` jdow
2018-04-27  2:11         ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Michael Schmitz
2018-06-24  9:06           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-24 11:33             ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? jdow
2018-06-24 11:40             ` jdow
2018-06-26  2:23               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-26  5:17                 ` jdow
2018-06-26  8:12                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-26  9:46                     ` jdow
2018-06-26  8:31                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-26  9:45                     ` jdow
2018-06-27  1:07                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-27  6:24                         ` jdow
2018-06-27  8:03                           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  2:57                             ` jdow
2018-06-28  7:40                               ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB (was: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?) Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-27  9:00                           ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? Michael Schmitz
2018-06-28  3:44                             ` jdow
2018-06-28  5:43                               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-28  6:39                                 ` jdow
2018-06-28  8:16                                   ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB (was: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?) Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28 10:00                                     ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB jdow
2018-06-28 11:30                                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28 11:38                                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28 12:31                                           ` jdow
2018-06-28  8:07                                 ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB (was: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?) Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-27  7:57                         ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  2:56                           ` jdow
2018-06-26  8:02                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-26  8:40                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-26  9:31                   ` jdow
2018-06-25  7:53             ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Michael Schmitz
2018-06-25  8:26               ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-25  8:40               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-27  8:01         ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-26  4:58   ` Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging Nikolay Borisov
2018-04-26  5:30     ` Willy Tarreau
2018-04-26  6:11 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-26 10:36   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-05-03  9:18     ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-27  1:10   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-29 12:07   ` Greg KH
2018-04-29 20:07     ` Ondrej Zary
2018-04-29 23:37       ` Greg KH [this message]
2018-05-01 10:14         ` Pavel Machek

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