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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	darrick.wong@oracle.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, clm@fb.com, jbacik@fb.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm: pagecache add lock
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 13:45:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180518174549.GD31737@kmo-pixel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180518155330.GA16931@infradead.org>

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 08:53:30AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 06:13:06AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > Historically, the only problematic case has been direct IO, and people
> > > have been willing to say "well, if you mix buffered and direct IO you
> > > get what you deserve", and that's probably not unreasonable. But now we
> > > have fallocate insert range and collapse range, and those are broken in
> > > ways I frankly don't want to think about if they can't ensure consistency
> > > with the page cache.
> > 
> > ext4 manages collapse-vs-pagefault with the ext4-specific i_mmap_sem.
> > You may get pushback on the grounds that this ought to be a
> > filesystem-specific lock rather than one embedded in the generic inode.
> 
> Honestly I think this probably should be in the core.  But IFF we move
> it to the core the existing users of per-fs locks need to be moved
> over first.  E.g. XFS as the very first one, and at least ext4 and f2fs
> that copied the approach, and probably more if you audit deep enough.

I didn't know about i_mmap_sem, thanks

But, using a rw semaphore wouldn't work for dio writes, and I do need dio writes
to block pagecache adds in bcachefs since the dio write could overwrite
uncompressed data or a reservation with compressed data, which means new writes
need a disk reservation.

Also I'm guessing ext4 takes the lock at the top of the read path? That sucks
for reads that are already cached, the generic buffered read path can do cached
reads without taking any per inode locks - that's why I pushed the lock down to
only be taken when we have to add a page to the pagecache.

Definitely less ugly doing it that way though...

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-18 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-18  7:48 [PATCH 00/10] RFC: assorted bcachefs patches Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: pagecache add lock Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 13:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-18 15:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-18 17:45       ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2018-05-23 23:55         ` Notes on locking for pagacache consistency (was: [PATCH 01/10] mm: pagecache add lock) Kent Overstreet
2018-05-20 22:45       ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: pagecache add lock Kent Overstreet
2018-05-23 15:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-23 17:12           ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: export find_get_pages() Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 16:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 03/10] locking: bring back lglocks Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  9:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-18 10:13     ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 11:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-18 11:39         ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 04/10] locking: export osq_lock()/osq_unlock() Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  9:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-18 10:18     ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 11:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-18 11:32         ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 11:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-18 12:40             ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 05/10] don't use spin_lock_irqsave() unnecessarily Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 16:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 06/10] Generic radix trees Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 16:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-18 17:38     ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 07/10] bcache: optimize continue_at_nobarrier() Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 08/10] bcache: move closures to lib/ Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 16:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 09/10] closures: closure_wait_event() Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18  7:49 ` [PATCH 10/10] Dynamic fault injection Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 16:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-18 17:37     ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 19:05   ` Andreas Dilger
2018-05-18 19:10     ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 20:54       ` Andreas Dilger
2018-05-18  7:55 ` [PATCH 00/10] RFC: assorted bcachefs patches Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 17:45 ` Josef Bacik
2018-05-18 17:49   ` Kent Overstreet
2018-05-18 18:03     ` Josef Bacik
2018-05-18 18:28       ` Kent Overstreet

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