From: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
suda.akihiro@lab.ntt.co.jp, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] seccomp: add a way to get a listener fd from ptrace
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 18:21:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181008162147.ubfxxsv2425l2zsp@brauner.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez3zaqOXH_jHN8=+jXjOf3vhFyWUkM_6KLPi9T8HcQySeg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 05:33:22PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:16 PM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 09:11:16AM -0600, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > > As an alternative to SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_GET_LISTENER, perhaps a ptrace()
> > > version which can acquire filters is useful. There are at least two reasons
> > > this is preferable, even though it uses ptrace:
> > >
> > > 1. You can control tasks that aren't cooperating with you
> > > 2. You can control tasks whose filters block sendmsg() and socket(); if the
> > > task installs a filter which blocks these calls, there's no way with
> > > SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_GET_LISTENER to get the fd out to the privileged task.
> >
> > So for the slow of mind aka me:
> > I'm not sure I completely understand this problem. Can you outline how
> > sendmsg() and socket() are involved in this?
> >
> > I'm also not sure that this holds (but I might misunderstand the
> > problem) afaict, you could do try to get the fd out via CLONE_FILES and
> > other means so something like:
> >
> > // let's pretend the libc wrapper for clone actually has sane semantics
> > pid = clone(CLONE_FILES);
> > if (pid == 0) {
> > fd = seccomp(SECCOMP_SET_MODE_FILTER, SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_NEW_LISTENER, &prog);
> >
> > // Now this fd will be valid in both parent and child.
> > // If you haven't blocked it you can inform the parent what
> > // the fd number is via pipe2(). If you have blocked it you can
> > // use dup2() and dup to a known fd number.
> > }
> >
> > >
> > > v2: fix a bug where listener mode was not unset when an unused fd was not
> > > available
> > > v3: fix refcounting bug (Oleg)
> > > v4: * change the listener's fd flags to be 0
> > > * rename GET_LISTENER to NEW_LISTENER (Matthew)
> > > v5: * add capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) requirement
> > > v7: * point the new listener at the right filter (Jann)
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>
> > > CC: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> > > CC: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
> > > CC: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> > > CC: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> > > CC: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
> > > CC: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
> > > CC: Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>
> > > CC: Akihiro Suda <suda.akihiro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > ---
> > > include/linux/seccomp.h | 7 ++
> > > include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h | 2 +
> > > kernel/ptrace.c | 4 ++
> > > kernel/seccomp.c | 31 +++++++++
> > > tools/testing/selftests/seccomp/seccomp_bpf.c | 68 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > 5 files changed, 112 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/seccomp.h b/include/linux/seccomp.h
> > > index 017444b5efed..234c61b37405 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/seccomp.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/seccomp.h
> > > @@ -83,6 +83,8 @@ static inline int seccomp_mode(struct seccomp *s)
> > > #ifdef CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER
> > > extern void put_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk);
> > > extern void get_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk);
> > > +extern long seccomp_new_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > > + unsigned long filter_off);
> > > #else /* CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER */
> > > static inline void put_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > > {
> > > @@ -92,6 +94,11 @@ static inline void get_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > > {
> > > return;
> > > }
> > > +static inline long seccomp_new_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > > + unsigned long filter_off)
> > > +{
> > > + return -EINVAL;
> > > +}
> > > #endif /* CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER */
> > >
> > > #if defined(CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER) && defined(CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE)
> > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h b/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
> > > index d5a1b8a492b9..e80ecb1bd427 100644
> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
> > > @@ -73,6 +73,8 @@ struct seccomp_metadata {
> > > __u64 flags; /* Output: filter's flags */
> > > };
> > >
> > > +#define PTRACE_SECCOMP_NEW_LISTENER 0x420e
> > > +
> > > /* Read signals from a shared (process wide) queue */
> > > #define PTRACE_PEEKSIGINFO_SHARED (1 << 0)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/ptrace.c b/kernel/ptrace.c
> > > index 21fec73d45d4..289960ac181b 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/ptrace.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/ptrace.c
> > > @@ -1096,6 +1096,10 @@ int ptrace_request(struct task_struct *child, long request,
> > > ret = seccomp_get_metadata(child, addr, datavp);
> > > break;
> > >
> > > + case PTRACE_SECCOMP_NEW_LISTENER:
> > > + ret = seccomp_new_listener(child, addr);
> > > + break;
> > > +
> > > default:
> > > break;
> > > }
> > > diff --git a/kernel/seccomp.c b/kernel/seccomp.c
> > > index 44a31ac8373a..17685803a2af 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/seccomp.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/seccomp.c
> > > @@ -1777,4 +1777,35 @@ static struct file *init_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > >
> > > return ret;
> > > }
> > > +
> > > +long seccomp_new_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > > + unsigned long filter_off)
> > > +{
> > > + struct seccomp_filter *filter;
> > > + struct file *listener;
> > > + int fd;
> > > +
> > > + if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > > + return -EACCES;
> >
> > I know this might have been discussed a while back but why exactly do we
> > require CAP_SYS_ADMIN in init_userns and not in the target userns? What
> > if I want to do a setns()fd, CLONE_NEWUSER) to the target process and
> > use ptrace from in there?
>
> See https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAG48ez3R+ZJ1vwGkDfGzKX2mz6f=jjJWsO5pCvnH68P+RKO8Ow@mail.gmail.com/
> . Basically, the problem is that this doesn't just give you capability
> over the target task, but also over every other task that has the same
> filter installed; you need some sort of "is the caller capable over
> the filter and anyone who uses it" check.
Thanks.
But then this new ptrace feature as it stands is imho currently broken.
If you can install a seccomp filter with SECCOMP_RET_USER_NOTIF if you
are ns_cpabable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) and also get an fd via seccomp() itself
if you are ns_cpabable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) then either the new ptrace() api
extension should be fixed to allow for this too or the seccomp() way of
retrieving the pid - which I really think we want - needs to be fixed to
require capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) too.
The solution where both require ns_capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) is - imho -
the preferred way to solve this.
Everything else will just be confusing.
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Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-27 15:11 [PATCH v7 0/6] seccomp trap to userspace Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] seccomp: add a return code to " Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 21:31 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-27 22:48 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 23:10 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 14:39 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-08 14:58 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 14:28 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-09 16:24 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 16:29 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-17 20:29 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-17 22:21 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-17 22:33 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-21 16:04 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-22 9:42 ` Christian Brauner
2018-09-27 21:51 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:45 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-27 23:08 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 23:04 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 23:37 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-29 0:28 ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] seccomp: make get_nth_filter available outside of CHECKPOINT_RESTORE Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:51 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 21:42 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-08 13:55 ` Christian Brauner
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] seccomp: add a way to get a listener fd from ptrace Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:20 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 16:34 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 17:35 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 18:09 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 21:53 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-08 15:16 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 15:33 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-08 16:21 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2018-10-08 16:42 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-08 18:18 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 12:39 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 13:28 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 13:36 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 13:49 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 13:50 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 14:09 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 15:26 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 16:20 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 16:26 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-10 12:54 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 13:09 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 13:10 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-10 13:18 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 15:31 ` Paul Moore
2018-10-10 15:33 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-10 15:39 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 16:54 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-10 17:15 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 17:26 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-10 18:28 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-11 7:24 ` Paul Moore
2018-10-11 13:39 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-11 23:10 ` Paul Moore
2018-10-12 1:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-12 20:02 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-12 20:06 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-12 20:11 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 18:00 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-08 18:41 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 17:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-10 18:26 ` Christian Brauner
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] files: add a replace_fd_files() function Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:49 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 18:04 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 21:59 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 2:20 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 2:46 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-28 5:23 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] seccomp: add a way to pass FDs via a notification fd Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:39 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:13 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 19:28 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:14 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 22:17 ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:49 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 22:09 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-27 22:15 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] samples: add an example of seccomp user trap Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 22:11 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 21:57 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] seccomp trap to userspace Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
2018-09-28 22:03 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-28 22:16 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-09-28 22:34 ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 22:46 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-09-28 22:48 ` Jann Horn
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