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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Huaisheng Ye <yehs2007@zoho.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	chengnt <chengnt@lenovo.com>, yehs1 <yehs1@lenovo.com>,
	colyli <colyli@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Snapshot target and DAX-capable devices
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:15:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181212211547.GA24926@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181212175047.GA24962@redhat.com>

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:50:47PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12 2018 at 11:12am -0500,
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > Does it really make sense to enhance dm-snapshot?  I thought all serious
> > users of snapshots had moved on to dm-thinp?
> 
> There are cases where dm-snapshot is still useful for people.  But those
> are very niche users.  I'm not opposed to others proposing enhancements
> for dm-snapshot in general but it is definitely not a priority (Google's
> dm-bow is an example of a case where dm-snapshot may get extended to
> fulfill google's needs).

I would expect that dm-snapshot will be used quite a lot for
short-lived snapshots (that only live during a database backup or an
fsck run).  I would hardly call that a "niche use case".  One other
major advantage that dm-snapshot has is that you can take a snapshot
for any LVM volume.  For dm-thinp you have migrate your storage to a
thinp pool, and that adds a fair amount of friction to users migrating
to dm-thinp.

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-12 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-27 16:07 Snapshot target and DAX-capable devices Jan Kara
2018-08-27 16:43 ` Kani, Toshi
2018-08-28  7:50   ` Jan Kara
2018-08-28 17:56     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-08-28 22:38       ` Kani, Toshi
2018-08-30  9:30       ` Jan Kara
2018-08-30 18:49         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-08-30 19:32           ` Jeff Moyer
2018-08-30 19:47             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-30 19:53               ` Jeff Moyer
2018-08-30 23:38               ` Dave Chinner
2018-08-31  9:42                 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05  1:25                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-12-12 16:11                   ` Huaisheng Ye
2018-12-12 16:12                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-12 17:50                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-12-12 19:49                         ` Kani, Toshi
2018-12-12 21:15                         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2018-12-12 22:43                           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-12-14  4:11                             ` [dm-devel] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-12-14  8:24                             ` [External] " Huaisheng HS1 Ye
2018-12-18 19:49                               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-08-30 19:44           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-31 10:01             ` Jan Kara
2018-08-30 22:55           ` Dave Chinner
2018-08-31  9:54           ` Jan Kara
2018-08-30 19:17         ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2018-08-31  9:14           ` Jan Kara

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