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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Long read latencies on mixed rw buffered IO
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:02:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190325180213.GA31766@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjh2w3PeyftwJS5djndVp0kSRwf9ki1FUMRqCU9H+uDTg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> Sure, let's give that a shot. But allow me to stay skeptical, because
> I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all solution.
> If application doesn't need >4K atomicity and xfs imposes file-wide
> read locks, there is bound to exist a workload where ext4 can guaranty
> lower latencies than xfs.
> 
> Then again, if we fix rw_semaphore to do a good enough job for my
> workload, I may not care about those worst case workloads...

Downgrading these long standing guarantees is simply not an option.

Not quite sure what the I/O pattern of your workload is, but if it
is reads from other regions than you write to you should look into
implementing range locks.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-25 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAOQ4uxi0pGczXBX7GRAFs88Uw0n1ERJZno3JSeZR71S1dXg+2w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20190325001044.GA23020@dastard>
2019-03-25  7:49   ` [QUESTION] Long read latencies on mixed rw buffered IO Amir Goldstein
2019-03-25 15:47     ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-25 16:41       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-25 17:30         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-25 18:22           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-25 19:18             ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-25 19:40               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-25 19:57                 ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-25 23:48                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-26  3:44                     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-27  1:29                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-25 17:56       ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-25 18:02         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2019-03-25 18:44           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-25 23:43     ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-26  4:36       ` Amir Goldstein

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