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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Linux-FSDevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] guarantee natural alignment for kmalloc()?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 06:28:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190411132819.GB22763@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <790b68b7-3689-0ff6-08ae-936728bc6458@suse.cz>

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 02:52:08PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> In the session I hope to resolve the question whether this is indeed the
> right thing to do for all kmalloc() users, without an explicit alignment
> requests, and if it's worth the potentially worse
> performance/fragmentation it would impose on a hypothetical new slab
> implementation for which it wouldn't be optimal to split power-of-two
> sized pages into power-of-two-sized objects (or whether there are any
> other downsides).

I think this is exactly the kind of discussion that LSFMM is for!  It's
really a whole-system question; is Linux better-off having the flexibility
for allocators to return non-power-of-two aligned memory, or allowing
consumers of the kmalloc API to assume that "sufficiently large" memory
is naturally aligned.

Another possibility that should be considered is introducing a kmalloc()
variant like posix_memalign() that allows for specifying the alignment,
or just kmalloc_naturally_aligned().

And we probably need to reiterate for the benefit of those not following
the discussion that creating a slab cache (which does allow for alignment
to be specified) is impractical for this use case because the actual
allocations are of variable size, but always need to be 512-byte aligned.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-11 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-11 12:52 [LSF/MM TOPIC] guarantee natural alignment for kmalloc()? Vlastimil Babka
2019-04-11 13:28 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2019-04-25 11:33   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-04-25 12:03     ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-04-25 12:03     ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-12  7:14 ` James Bottomley
2019-04-12  7:54   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-04-16 15:38     ` Christopher Lameter
2019-04-17  8:07       ` Vlastimil Babka

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