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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Matthew Bobrowski <mbobrowski@mbobrowski.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] Sort out fsnotify_nameremove() mess
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 14:25:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190516122506.GF13274@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190516102641.6574-1-amir73il@gmail.com>

Hi,

On Thu 16-05-19 13:26:27, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> What do you think will be the best merge strategy for this patch series?
> 
> How about sending first 3 prep patches to Linus for applying at the end
> of v5.2 merge window, so individual maintainers can pick up per fs
> patches for the v5.3 development cycle?

I don't think we'll make it for rc1. But those three cleanup patches would
be OK for rc2 as well. But overall patches are not very intrusive so I'm
also OK with pushing the patches myself once we get acks from respective
maintainers if Al will be too busy and won't react.

> The following d_delete() call sites have been audited and will no longer
> generate fsnotify event after this series:
> 
> drivers/usb/gadget/function/f_fs.c:ffs_epfiles_destroy() - cleanup? (*)

Not really but creation events are not generated either.

> fs/ceph/dir.c:ceph_unlink() - from vfs_unlink()
> fs/ceph/inode.c:ceph_fill_trace() - invalidate (**)

There's one more 'invalidate' case in fs/ceph/inode.c.

> fs/configfs/dir.c:detach_groups() - cleanup (*)

Why is this a cleanup? detach_groups() is used also from
configfs_detach_group() which gets called from configfs_rmdir() which is
real deletion.

> fs/configfs/dir.c:configfs_attach_item() - cleanup (*)
> fs/configfs/dir.c:configfs_attach_group() - cleanup (*)
> fs/efivarfs/file.c:efivarfs_file_write() - invalidate (**)
> fs/fuse/dir.c:fuse_reverse_inval_entry() - invalidate (**)
> fs/nfs/dir.c:nfs_dentry_handle_enoent() - invalidate (**)
> fs/nsfs.c:__ns_get_path() - invalidate (**)

More a cleanup case I'd say...

> fs/ocfs2/dlmglue.c:ocfs2_dentry_convert_worker() - invalidate? (**)

This is really invalidate.

> fs/reiserfs/xattr.c:xattr_{unlink,rmdir}() - hidden xattr inode
> 
> (*) There are 2 "cleanup" use cases:
>   - Create;init;delte if init failed
>   - Batch delete of files within dir before removing dir
>   Both those cases are not interesting for users that wish to observe
>   configuration changes on pseudo filesystems.  Often, there is already
>   an fsnotify event generated on the directory removal which is what
>   users should find interesting, for example:
>   configfs_unregister_{group,subsystem}().
> 
> (**) The different "invalidate" use cases differ, but they all share
>   one thing in common - user is not guarantied to get an event with
>   current kernel.  For example, when a file is deleted remotely on
>   nfs server, nfs client is not guarantied to get an fsnotify delete
>   event.  On current kernel, nfs client could generate an fsnotify
>   delete event if the local entry happens to be in cache and client
>   finds out that entry is deleted on server during another user
>   operation.  Incidentally, this group of use cases is where most of
>   the call sites are with "unstable" d_name, which is the reason for
>   this patch series to begin with.

Thanks. Maybe for other reviewers it would be more convincing to take
sanitized output of 'git grep "[^a-z_]d_delete("' and annotate how each
callsite is handled - i.e., "cleanup, invalidate, simple_remove, vfs,
manual - patch X". But I'm now reasonably convinced we didn't forget
anything :).

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-16 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-16 10:26 [PATCH v2 00/14] Sort out fsnotify_nameremove() mess Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] ASoC: rename functions that pollute the simple_xxx namespace Amir Goldstein
2019-05-17  1:04   ` Kuninori Morimoto
2019-05-21 20:32   ` Applied "ASoC: rename functions that pollute the simple_xxx namespace" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] fs: create simple_remove() helper Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 15:08   ` Fwd: " Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 17:07   ` Al Viro
2019-05-16 18:42     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] fsnotify: add empty fsnotify_{unlink,rmdir}() hooks Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 15:30   ` Fwd: " Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] fs: convert hypfs to use simple_remove() helper Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] fs: convert qibfs/ipathfs " Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] fs: convert debugfs " Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:35   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-05-16 10:44     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 12:02       ` Jan Kara
2019-05-16 12:09         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 15:28           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-05-16 15:38             ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 16:52               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-05-16 18:47                 ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] fs: convert tracefs " Amir Goldstein
2019-05-17 17:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] fs: convert rpc_pipefs " Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] fs: convert apparmorfs " Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] fsnotify: call fsnotify_rmdir() hook from btrfs Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 11:56   ` David Sterba
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] fsnotify: call fsnotify_rmdir() hook from configfs Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 12:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-16 13:38     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] fsnotify: call fsnotify_unlink() hook from devpts Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] fsnotify: move fsnotify_nameremove() hook out of d_delete() Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:26 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] fsnotify: get rid of fsnotify_nameremove() Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Sort out fsnotify_nameremove() mess Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 12:25 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2019-05-16 13:56   ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-16 16:17     ` Al Viro

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