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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Cc: "linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/24] xfs: don't allow log IO to be throttled
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 09:58:49 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190801235849.GO7777@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F1E7CC65-D2CB-4078-9AA3-9D172ECDE17B@fb.com>

On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 01:39:34PM +0000, Chris Mason wrote:
> On 31 Jul 2019, at 22:17, Dave Chinner wrote:
> 
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> >
> > Running metadata intensive workloads, I've been seeing the AIL
> > pushing getting stuck on pinned buffers and triggering log forces.
> > The log force is taking a long time to run because the log IO is
> > getting throttled by wbt_wait() - the block layer writeback
> > throttle. It's being throttled because there is a huge amount of
> > metadata writeback going on which is filling the request queue.
> >
> > IOWs, we have a priority inversion problem here.
> >
> > Mark the log IO bios with REQ_IDLE so they don't get throttled
> > by the block layer writeback throttle. When we are forcing the CIL,
> > we are likely to need to to tens of log IOs, and they are issued as
> > fast as they can be build and IO completed. Hence REQ_IDLE is
> > appropriate - it's an indication that more IO will follow shortly.
> >
> > And because we also set REQ_SYNC, the writeback throttle will no
> > treat log IO the same way it treats direct IO writes - it will not
> > throttle them at all. Hence we solve the priority inversion problem
> > caused by the writeback throttle being unable to distinguish between
> > high priority log IO and background metadata writeback.
> >
>   [ cc Jens ]
> 
> We spent a lot of time getting rid of these inversions in io.latency 
> (and the new io.cost), where REQ_META just blows through the throttling 
> and goes into back charging instead.

Which simply reinforces the fact that that request type based
throttling is a fundamentally broken architecture.

> It feels awkward to have one set of prio inversion workarounds for io.* 
> and another for wbt.  Jens, should we make an explicit one that doesn't 
> rely on magic side effects, or just decide that metadata is meta enough 
> to break all the rules?

The problem isn't REQ_META blows throw the throttling, the problem
is that different REQ_META IOs have different priority.

IOWs, the problem here is that we are trying to infer priority from
the request type rather than an actual priority assigned by the
submitter. There is no way direct IO has higher priority in a
filesystem than log IO tagged with REQ_META as direct IO can require
log IO to make progress. Priority is a policy determined by the
submitter, not the mechanism doing the throttling.

Can we please move this all over to priorites based on
bio->b_ioprio? And then document how the range of priorities are
managed, such as:

(99 = highest prio to 0 = lowest)

swap out
swap in				>90
User hard RT max		89
User hard RT min		80
filesystem max			79
ionice max			60
background data writeback	40
ionice min			20
filesystem min			10
idle				0

So that we can appropriately prioritise different types of kernel
internal IO w.r.t user controlled IO priorities? This way we can
still tag the bios with the type of data they contain, but we
no longer use that to determine whether to throttle that IO or not -
throttling/scheduling should be done entirely on a priority basis.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-01  2:17 [RFC] [PATCH 00/24] mm, xfs: non-blocking inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 01/24] mm: directed shrinker work deferral Dave Chinner
2019-08-02 15:27   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-04  1:49     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-05 17:42       ` Brian Foster
2019-08-05 23:43         ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-06 12:27           ` Brian Foster
2019-08-06 22:22             ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-07 11:13               ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 02/24] shrinkers: use will_defer for GFP_NOFS sensitive shrinkers Dave Chinner
2019-08-02 15:27   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-04  1:50     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 03/24] mm: factor shrinker work calculations Dave Chinner
2019-08-02 15:08   ` Nikolay Borisov
2019-08-04  2:05     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-02 15:31   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 04/24] shrinker: defer work only to kswapd Dave Chinner
2019-08-02 15:34   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-04 16:48   ` Nikolay Borisov
2019-08-04 21:37     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-07 16:12   ` kbuild test robot
2019-08-07 18:00   ` kbuild test robot
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 05/24] shrinker: clean up variable types and tracepoints Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 06/24] mm: reclaim_state records pages reclaimed, not slabs Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 07/24] mm: back off direct reclaim on excessive shrinker deferral Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 08/24] mm: kswapd backoff for shrinkers Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 09/24] xfs: don't allow log IO to be throttled Dave Chinner
2019-08-01 13:39   ` Chris Mason
2019-08-01 23:58     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-08-02  8:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-02 14:11       ` Chris Mason
2019-08-02 18:34         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-08-02 23:28         ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-05 18:32           ` Chris Mason
2019-08-05 23:09             ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 10/24] xfs: fix missed wakeup on l_flush_wait Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 11/24] xfs:: account for memory freed from metadata buffers Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  8:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-01  9:21     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-06  5:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 12/24] xfs: correctly acount for reclaimable slabs Dave Chinner
2019-08-06  5:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-06 21:05     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 13/24] xfs: synchronous AIL pushing Dave Chinner
2019-08-05 17:51   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-05 23:21     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-06 12:29       ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 14/24] xfs: tail updates only need to occur when LSN changes Dave Chinner
2019-08-05 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-05 23:28     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-06  5:33       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-06 12:53         ` Brian Foster
2019-08-06 21:11           ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 15/24] xfs: eagerly free shadow buffers to reduce CIL footprint Dave Chinner
2019-08-05 18:03   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-05 23:33     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-06 12:57       ` Brian Foster
2019-08-06 21:21         ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 16/24] xfs: Lower CIL flush limit for large logs Dave Chinner
2019-08-04 17:12   ` Nikolay Borisov
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 17/24] xfs: don't block kswapd in inode reclaim Dave Chinner
2019-08-06 18:21   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-06 21:27     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-07 11:14       ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 18/24] xfs: reduce kswapd blocking on inode locking Dave Chinner
2019-08-06 18:22   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-06 21:33     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-07 11:30       ` Brian Foster
2019-08-07 23:16         ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 19/24] xfs: kill background reclaim work Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 20/24] xfs: use AIL pushing for inode reclaim IO Dave Chinner
2019-08-07 18:09   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-07 23:10     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-08 16:20       ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 21/24] xfs: remove mode from xfs_reclaim_inodes() Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 22/24] xfs: track reclaimable inodes using a LRU list Dave Chinner
2019-08-08 16:36   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-09  0:10     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 23/24] xfs: reclaim inodes from the LRU Dave Chinner
2019-08-08 16:39   ` Brian Foster
2019-08-09  1:20     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-09 12:36       ` Brian Foster
2019-08-11  2:17         ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-11 12:46           ` Brian Foster
2019-08-01  2:17 ` [PATCH 24/24] xfs: remove unusued old inode reclaim code Dave Chinner
2019-08-06  5:57 ` [RFC] [PATCH 00/24] mm, xfs: non-blocking inode reclaim Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-06 21:37   ` Dave Chinner

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