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From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/gup: introduce vaddr_pin_pages_remote()
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:52:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190816155220.GC3149@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190816154404.GF3041@quack2.suse.cz>

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 05:44:04PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Fri 16-08-19 10:47:21, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > On 8/15/19 3:35 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> So when the GUP user uses MMU notifiers to stop writing to pages whenever
> > >> they are writeprotected with page_mkclean(), they don't really need page
> > >> pin - their access is then fully equivalent to any other mmap userspace
> > >> access and filesystem knows how to deal with those. I forgot out this case
> > >> when I wrote the above sentence.
> > >> 
> > >> So to sum up there are three cases:
> > >> 1) DIO case - GUP references to pages serving as DIO buffers are needed for
> > >>    relatively short time, no special synchronization with page_mkclean() or
> > >>    munmap() => needs FOLL_PIN
> > >> 2) RDMA case - GUP references to pages serving as DMA buffers needed for a
> > >>    long time, no special synchronization with page_mkclean() or munmap()
> > >>    => needs FOLL_PIN | FOLL_LONGTERM
> > >>    This case has also a special case when the pages are actually DAX. Then
> > >>    the caller additionally needs file lease and additional file_pin
> > >>    structure is used for tracking this usage.
> > >> 3) ODP case - GUP references to pages serving as DMA buffers, MMU notifiers
> > >>    used to synchronize with page_mkclean() and munmap() => normal page
> > >>    references are fine.
> > 
> > IMHO the munlock lesson told us about another one, that's in the end equivalent
> > to 3)
> > 
> > 4) pinning for struct page manipulation only => normal page references
> > are fine
> 
> Right, it's good to have this for clarity.
> 
> > > I want to add that I'd like to convert users in cases 1) and 2) from using
> > > GUP to using differently named function. Users in case 3) can stay as they
> > > are for now although ultimately I'd like to denote such use cases in a
> > > special way as well...
> > 
> > So after 1/2/3 is renamed/specially denoted, only 4) keeps the current
> > interface?
> 
> Well, munlock() code doesn't even use GUP, just follow_page(). I'd wait to
> see what's left after handling cases 1), 2), and 3) to decide about the
> interface for the remainder.
> 

For 3 we do not need to take a reference at all :) So just forget about 3
it does not exist. For 3 the reference is the reference the CPU page table
has on the page and that's it. GUP is no longer involve in ODP or anything
like that.

Cheers,
Jérôme

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-16 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-12  1:50 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/gup: introduce vaddr_pin_pages_remote(), FOLL_PIN john.hubbard
2019-08-12  1:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm/gup: introduce FOLL_PIN flag for get_user_pages() john.hubbard
2019-08-12  1:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/gup: introduce vaddr_pin_pages_remote() john.hubbard
2019-08-12 22:03   ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-12 22:21     ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 23:49   ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13  0:07     ` John Hubbard
2019-08-13 21:08       ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14  0:51         ` John Hubbard
2019-08-14  0:56           ` John Hubbard
2019-08-14 23:50             ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-15  0:02               ` John Hubbard
2019-08-15  3:01                 ` John Hubbard
2019-08-15 13:26                   ` Jan Kara
2019-08-15 13:35                     ` Jan Kara
2019-08-15 14:51                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-15 17:32                       ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-15 17:41                         ` John Hubbard
2019-08-16  2:14                           ` John Hubbard
2019-08-16 15:41                             ` Jan Kara
2019-08-16 18:33                               ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-16 18:50                                 ` John Hubbard
2019-08-16 21:59                                   ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-16 22:36                                     ` John Hubbard
2019-08-16  8:47                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-16 15:44                         ` Jan Kara
2019-08-16 15:52                           ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2019-08-16 16:13                             ` Jan Kara
2019-08-16 16:31                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-16 16:54                               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-08-16 17:04                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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