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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@aol.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:09:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190819160923.GG15198@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190818201405.GA27398@hsiangkao-HP-ZHAN-66-Pro-G1>

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 04:14:11AM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 02:16:55AM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > Hi Hch,
> > 
> > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 10:47:02AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 10:29:38AM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > Not sure what you're even disagreeing with, as I *do* expect new filesystems to
> > > > be held to a high standard, and to be written with the assumption that the
> > > > on-disk data may be corrupted or malicious.  We just can't expect the bar to be
> > > > so high (e.g. no bugs) that it's never been attained by *any* filesystem even
> > > > after years/decades of active development.  If the developers were careful, the
> > > > code generally looks robust, and they are willing to address such bugs as they
> > > > are found, realistically that's as good as we can expect to get...
> > >
> > > Well, the impression I got from Richards quick look and the reply to it is
> > > that there is very little attempt to validate the ondisk data structure
> > > and there is absolutely no priority to do so.  Which is very different
> > > from there is a bug or two here and there.
> > 
> > As my second reply to Richard, I didn't fuzz all the on-disk fields for EROFS.
> > and as my reply to Richard / Greg, current EROFS is used on the top of dm-verity.
> > 
> > I cannot say how well EROFS will be performed on malformed images (and you can
> > also find the bug richard pointed out is a miswritten break->continue by myself).
> > 
> > I posted the upstream EROFS post on July 4, 2019 and a month and a half later,
> > no one can tell me (yes, thanks for kind people reply me about their suggestion)
> > what we should do next (you can see these emails, I sent many times) to meet
> > the minimal upstream requirements and rare people can even dip into my code.
> > 
> > That is all I want to say. I will work on autofuzz these days, and I want to
> > know how to meet your requirements on this (you can tell us your standard,
> > how well should we do).
> > 
> > OK, you don't reply to my post once, I have no idea how to get your first reply.
> 
> I have made a simple fuzzer to inject messy in inode metadata,
> dir data, compressed indexes and super block,
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/xiang/erofs-utils.git/commit/?h=experimental-fuzzer
> 
> I am testing with some given dirs and the following script.
> Does it look reasonable?
> 
> # !/bin/bash
> 
> mkdir -p mntdir
> 
> for ((i=0; i<1000; ++i)); do
> 	mkfs/mkfs.erofs -F$i testdir_fsl.fuzz.img testdir_fsl > /dev/null 2>&1

mkfs fuzzes the image? Er....

Over in XFS land we have an xfs debugging tool (xfs_db) that knows how
to dump (and write!) most every field of every metadata type.  This
makes it fairly easy to write systematic level 0 fuzzing tests that
check how well the filesystem reacts to garbage data (zeroing,
randomizing, oneing, adding and subtracting small integers) in a field.
(It also knows how to trash entire blocks.)

You might want to write such a debugging tool for erofs so that you can
take apart crashed images to get a better idea of what went wrong, and
to write easy fuzzing tests.

--D

> 	umount mntdir
> 	mount -t erofs -o loop testdir_fsl.fuzz.img mntdir
> 	for j in `find mntdir -type f`; do
> 		md5sum $j > /dev/null
> 	done
> done
> 
> Thanks,
> Gao Xiang
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Gao Xiang
> > 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-19 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-17  8:23 [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging Gao Xiang
2019-08-17 21:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-17 22:07   ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-17 23:25     ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-17 23:38       ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18  0:04         ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18  0:52           ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18  8:16         ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18  8:45           ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18  9:03             ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18  9:09               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-18  9:21                 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 10:12                   ` Chao Yu
2019-08-18 15:11                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 15:58                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 16:16                       ` Eric Biggers
2019-08-18 16:22                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 16:33                           ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 17:29                           ` Eric Biggers
2019-08-18 17:47                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 18:16                               ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 20:14                                 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19  7:35                                   ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-19  8:02                                     ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 10:34                                       ` [PATCH 0/6] staging: erofs: first stage of corrupted compressed images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 10:34                                         ` [PATCH 1/6] staging: erofs: some compressed cluster should be submitted for corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:36                                           ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 14:39                                           ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34                                         ` [PATCH 2/6] staging: erofs: cannot set EROFS_V_Z_INITED_BIT if fill_inode_lazy fails Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:43                                           ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34                                         ` [PATCH 3/6] staging: erofs: add two missing erofs_workgroup_put for corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:40                                           ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34                                         ` [PATCH 4/6] staging: erofs: avoid loop in submit chains Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:50                                           ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34                                         ` [PATCH 5/6] staging: erofs: detect potential multiref due to corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:57                                           ` Chao Yu
2019-08-21  2:19                                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-21 14:01                                               ` [PATCH v2 " Gao Xiang
2019-08-21 14:24                                                 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34                                         ` [PATCH 6/6] staging: erofs: avoid endless loop of invalid lookback distance 0 Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:58                                           ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 16:09                                   ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2019-08-19 20:30                                     ` [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging Gao Xiang
2019-08-20  0:55                                       ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20  1:55                                         ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20  2:24                                         ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20  2:38                                           ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20  7:15                                             ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20  8:46                                               ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-21  2:12                                                 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 15:56                                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-20 16:35                                             ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-21  0:51                                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-21  1:34                                             ` Chao Yu
2019-08-21  1:48                                               ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-21  1:57                                                 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20  3:33                                         ` Miao Xie
2019-08-20  3:46                                           ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20  6:04                                           ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20  6:22                                             ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19  7:37                               ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 17:43                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 16:03                     ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 17:06                     ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 17:46                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 18:00                         ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 18:31                           ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18  9:28               ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19  5:28                 ` [PATCH] erofs: Use common kernel logging style Joe Perches
2019-08-19  5:52                   ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19  5:47                     ` Joe Perches
2019-08-19  6:08                       ` Gao Xiang

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