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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>,
	dev@opencontainers.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/1] mount: universally disallow mounting over symlinks
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 01:49:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200103014901.GC8904@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200102035920.dsycgxnb6ba2jhz2@yavin.dot.cyphar.com>

On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 02:59:20PM +1100, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
> On 2020-01-01, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 01:44:07AM +1100, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks, this fixes the issue for me (and also fixes another reproducer I
> > > found -- mounting a symlink on top of itself then trying to umount it).
> > > 
> > > Reported-by: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
> > > Tested-by: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
> > 
> > Pushed into #fixes.
> 
> Thanks. One other thing I noticed is that umount applies to the
> underlying symlink rather than the mountpoint on top. So, for example
> (using the same scripts I posted in the thread):
> 
>   # ln -s /tmp/foo link
>   # ./mount_to_symlink /etc/passwd link
>   # umount -l link # will attempt to unmount "/tmp/foo"
> 
> Is that intentional?

It's a mess, again in mountpoint_last().  FWIW, at some point I proposed
to have nd_jump_link() to fail with -ELOOP if the target was a symlink;
Linus asked for reasons deeper than my dislike of the semantics, I looked
around and hadn't spotted anything.  And there hadn't been at the time,
but when four months later umount_lookup_last() went in I failed to look
for that source of potential problems in it ;-/

I've looked at that area again now.  Aside of usual cursing at do_last()
horrors (yes, its control flow is a horror; yes, it needs serious massage;
no, it's not a good idea to get sidetracked into that right now), there
are several fun questions:
	* d_manage() and d_automount().  We almost certainly don't
want those for autofs on the final component of pathname in umount,
including the trailing symlinks.  But do we want those on usual access
via /proc/*/fd/*?  I.e. suppose somebody does open() (O_PATH or not)
in autofs; do we want ->d_manage()/->d_automount() called when
resolving /proc/self/fd/<whatever>/foo/bar?  We do not; is that
correct from autofs point of view?  I suspect that refusing to
do ->d_automount() is correct, but I don't understand ->d_manage()
purpose well enough to tell.
	* I really hope that the weird "trailing / forces automount
even in cases when we normally wouldn't trigger it" (stat /mnt/foo
vs. stat /mnt/foo/) is not meant to extend to umount.  I'd like
Ian's confirmation, though.
	* do we want ->d_manage() on following .. into overmounted
directory?  Again, autofs question...

	The minimal fix to mountpoint_last() would be to have
follow_mount() done in LAST_NORM case.  However, I'd like to understand
(and hopefully regularize) the rules for follow_mount()/follow_managed().
Additional scary question is nfsd iterplay with automount.  For nfs4
exports it's potentially interesting...

	Ian, could you comment on the autofs questions above?
I'd rather avoid doing changes in that area without your input -
it's subtle and breakage in automount-related behaviour can be
mysterious as hell.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-03  1:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-30  5:20 [PATCH RFC 0/1] mount: universally disallow mounting over symlinks Aleksa Sarai
2019-12-30  5:20 ` [PATCH RFC 1/1] " Aleksa Sarai
2019-12-30  7:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-30  8:28     ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-08  4:39       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-30  5:44 ` [PATCH RFC 0/1] " Al Viro
2019-12-30  5:49   ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]     ` <20191230072959.62kcojxpthhdwmfa@yavin.dot.cyphar.com>
2019-12-30  7:53       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-30  8:32         ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-02  8:58           ` David Laight
2020-01-02  9:09             ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-01  0:43       ` Al Viro
2020-01-01  0:54         ` Al Viro
2020-01-01  3:08           ` Al Viro
2020-01-01 14:44             ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-01 23:40               ` Al Viro
2020-01-02  3:59                 ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-03  1:49                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2020-01-04  4:46                     ` Ian Kent
2020-01-08  3:13                     ` Al Viro
2020-01-08  3:54                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-01-08 21:34                         ` Al Viro
2020-01-10  0:08                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-01-10  4:15                             ` Al Viro
2020-01-10  5:03                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-01-10  6:20                               ` Ian Kent
2020-01-12 21:33                                 ` Al Viro
2020-01-13  2:59                                   ` Ian Kent
2020-01-14  0:25                                     ` Ian Kent
2020-01-14  4:39                                       ` Al Viro
2020-01-14  5:01                                         ` Ian Kent
2020-01-14  5:59                                           ` Ian Kent
2020-01-10 21:07                         ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-14  4:57                           ` Al Viro
2020-01-14  5:12                             ` Al Viro
2020-01-14 20:01                             ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-15 14:25                               ` Al Viro
2020-01-15 14:29                                 ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-15 14:34                                   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-15 14:48                                     ` Al Viro
2020-01-18 12:07                                       ` [PATCH v3 0/2] openat2: minor uapi cleanups Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-18 12:07                                         ` [PATCH v3 1/2] open: introduce openat2(2) syscall Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-18 12:08                                         ` [PATCH v3 2/2] selftests: add openat2(2) selftests Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-18 15:28                                         ` [PATCH v3 0/2] openat2: minor uapi cleanups Al Viro
2020-01-18 18:09                                           ` Al Viro
2020-01-18 23:03                                             ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-19  1:12                                               ` Al Viro
2020-01-15 13:57                             ` [PATCH RFC 0/1] mount: universally disallow mounting over symlinks Aleksa Sarai
2020-01-19  3:14                               ` [RFC][PATCHSET][CFT] pathwalk cleanups and fixes Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                 ` [PATCH 01/17] do_add_mount(): lift lock_mount/unlock_mount into callers Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 02/17] fix automount/automount race properly Al Viro
2020-01-30 14:34                                     ` Christian Brauner
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 03/17] follow_automount(): get rid of dead^Wstillborn code Al Viro
2020-01-30 14:38                                     ` Christian Brauner
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 04/17] follow_automount() doesn't need the entire nameidata Al Viro
2020-01-30 14:45                                     ` Christian Brauner
2020-01-30 15:38                                       ` Al Viro
2020-01-30 15:55                                         ` Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 05/17] make build_open_flags() treat O_CREAT | O_EXCL as implying O_NOFOLLOW Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 06/17] handle_mounts(): start building a sane wrapper for follow_managed() Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 07/17] atomic_open(): saner calling conventions (return dentry on success) Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 08/17] lookup_open(): " Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 09/17] do_last(): collapse the call of path_to_nameidata() Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 10/17] handle_mounts(): pass dentry in, turn path into a pure out argument Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 11/17] lookup_fast(): consolidate the RCU success case Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 12/17] teach handle_mounts() to handle RCU mode Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 13/17] lookup_fast(): take mount traversal into callers Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 14/17] new step_into() flag: WALK_NOFOLLOW Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 15/17] fold handle_mounts() into step_into() Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 16/17] LOOKUP_MOUNTPOINT: fold path_mountpointat() into path_lookupat() Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 17/17] expand the only remaining call of path_lookup_conditional() Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 1/9] merging pick_link() with get_link(), part 1 Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 2/9] merging pick_link() with get_link(), part 2 Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 3/9] merging pick_link() with get_link(), part 3 Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 4/9] merging pick_link() with get_link(), part 4 Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 5/9] merging pick_link() with get_link(), part 5 Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 6/9] merging pick_link() with get_link(), part 6 Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 7/9] finally fold get_link() into pick_link() Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 8/9] massage __follow_mount_rcu() a bit Al Viro
2020-01-19  3:17                                   ` [PATCH 9/9] new helper: traverse_mounts() Al Viro
2020-01-30 14:13                                   ` [PATCH 01/17] do_add_mount(): lift lock_mount/unlock_mount into callers Christian Brauner
2020-01-19 14:33                                 ` [RFC][PATCHSET][CFT] pathwalk cleanups and fixes Ian Kent
2020-01-10 23:19                     ` [PATCH RFC 0/1] mount: universally disallow mounting over symlinks Al Viro
2020-01-13  1:48                       ` Ian Kent
2020-01-13  3:54                         ` Al Viro
2020-01-13  6:00                           ` Ian Kent
2020-01-13  6:03                             ` Ian Kent
2020-01-13 13:30                               ` Al Viro
2020-01-14  7:25                                 ` Ian Kent
2020-01-14 12:17                                   ` Ian Kent
2020-01-04  5:52               ` Andy Lutomirski

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