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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: RFC: hold i_rwsem until aio completes
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 07:56:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200115065614.GC21219@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200114192700.GC22037@ziepe.ca>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 03:27:00PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> I've seen similar locking patterns quite a lot, enough I've thought
> about having a dedicated locking primitive to do it. It really wants
> to be a rwsem, but as here the rwsem rules don't allow it.
> 
> The common pattern I'm looking at looks something like this:
> 
>  'try begin read'() // aka down_read_trylock()
> 
>   /* The lockdep release hackery you describe,
>      the rwsem remains read locked */
>  'exit reader'()
> 
>  .. delegate unlock to work queue, timer, irq, etc ..
> 
> in the new context:
> 
>  're_enter reader'() // Get our lockdep tracking back
> 
>  'end reader'() // aka up_read()
> 
> vs a typical write side:
> 
>  'begin write'() // aka down_write()
> 
>  /* There is no reason to unlock it before kfree of the rwsem memory.
>     Somehow the user prevents any new down_read_trylock()'s */
>  'abandon writer'() // The object will be kfree'd with a locked writer
>  kfree()
> 
> The typical goal is to provide an object destruction path that can
> serialize and fence all readers wherever they may be before proceeding
> to some synchronous destruction.
> 
> Usually this gets open coded with some atomic/kref/refcount and a
> completion or wait queue. Often implemented wrongly, lacking the write
> favoring bias in the rwsem, and lacking any lockdep tracking on the
> naked completion.
> 
> Not to discourage your patch, but to ask if we can make the solution
> more broadly applicable?

Your requirement seems a little different, and in fact in many ways
similar to the percpu_ref primitive.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-15  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 16:12 RFC: hold i_rwsem until aio completes Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 01/12] mm: fix a comment in sys_swapon Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-10 23:29   ` Andrew Morton
2020-02-12  7:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 02/12] locking/rwsem: Exit early when held by an anonymous owner Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 18:17   ` Waiman Long
2020-01-14 18:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 18:33       ` Waiman Long
2020-01-14 18:55       ` Waiman Long
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 03/12] xfs: fix IOCB_NOWAIT handling in xfs_file_dio_aio_read Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 04/12] gfs2: move setting current->backing_dev_info Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 05/12] gfs2: fix O_SYNC write handling Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-27  9:03   ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-28 16:57     ` Bob Peterson
2020-02-06 15:31   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 06/12] iomap: pass a flags value to iomap_dio_rw Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 07/12] iomap: allow holding i_rwsem until aio completion Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 08/12] ext4: hold i_rwsem until AIO completes Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 21:50   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-15  6:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 09/12] gfs2: " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 10/12] xfs: " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 11/12] xfs: don't set IOMAP_DIO_SYNCHRONOUS for unaligned I/O Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 16:12 ` [PATCH 12/12] iomap: remove the inode_dio_begin/end calls Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 18:47 ` RFC: hold i_rwsem until aio completes Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-15  6:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 19:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-15  6:56   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-01-15 13:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-15 14:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-15 14:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-15 19:03           ` Waiman Long
2020-01-15 19:07             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-18 22:40         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-15 15:36       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-15 16:26         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-16 14:00 ` Jan Kara
2020-02-03 17:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-18  9:28 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-03 17:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-03 23:02     ` Dave Chinner

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