From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: ira.weiny@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 07/13] fs: Add locking for a dynamic address space operations state
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 09:44:19 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200221224419.GW10776@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200221174449.GB11378@lst.de>
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:44:49PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 04:41:28PM -0800, ira.weiny@intel.com wrote:
> > From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
> >
> > DAX requires special address space operations (aops). Changing DAX
> > state therefore requires changing those aops.
> >
> > However, many functions require aops to remain consistent through a deep
> > call stack.
> >
> > Define a vfs level inode rwsem to protect aops throughout call stacks
> > which require them.
> >
> > Finally, define calls to be used in subsequent patches when aops usage
> > needs to be quiesced by the file system.
>
> I am very much against this. There is a reason why we don't support
> changes of ops vectors at runtime anywhere else, because it is
> horribly complicated and impossible to get right. IFF we ever want
> to change the DAX vs non-DAX mode (which I'm still not sold on) the
> right way is to just add a few simple conditionals and merge the
> aops, which is much easier to reason about, and less costly in overall
> overhead.
*cough*
That's exactly what the original code did. And it was broken
because page faults call multiple aops that are dependent on the
result of the previous aop calls setting up the state correctly for
the latter calls. And when S_DAX changes between those calls, shit
breaks.
It's exactly the same problem as switching aops between two
dependent aops method calls - we don't solve anything by merging
aops and checking IS_DAX in each method because the race condition
is still there.
/me throws his hands in the air and walks away
-Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-21 22:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-21 0:41 [PATCH V4 00/13] Enable per-file/per-directory DAX operations V4 ira.weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 01/13] fs/xfs: Remove unnecessary initialization of i_rwsem ira.weiny
2020-02-21 1:26 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-27 17:52 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 02/13] fs/xfs: Clarify lockdep dependency for xfs_isilocked() ira.weiny
2020-02-21 1:34 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-21 23:00 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 03/13] fs: Remove unneeded IS_DAX() check ira.weiny
2020-02-21 1:42 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-21 23:04 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-21 17:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 04/13] fs/stat: Define DAX statx attribute ira.weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 05/13] fs/xfs: Isolate the physical DAX flag from enabled ira.weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 06/13] fs/xfs: Create function xfs_inode_enable_dax() ira.weiny
2020-02-22 0:28 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-23 15:07 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 07/13] fs: Add locking for a dynamic address space operations state ira.weiny
2020-02-21 17:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-21 22:44 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2020-02-21 23:26 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-24 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-25 0:09 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25 17:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-25 19:37 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-02-26 9:28 ` Jonathan Halliday
2020-02-26 11:31 ` Jan Kara
2020-02-26 11:56 ` Jonathan Halliday
2020-02-26 16:10 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-26 16:46 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-26 17:20 ` Jan Kara
2020-02-26 17:54 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-25 21:03 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-26 11:17 ` Jan Kara
2020-02-26 15:57 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-22 0:33 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-23 15:03 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 08/13] fs: Prevent DAX state change if file is mmap'ed ira.weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 09/13] fs/xfs: Add write aops lock to xfs layer ira.weiny
2020-02-22 0:31 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-02-23 15:04 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-24 0:34 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-24 19:57 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-24 22:32 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-25 21:12 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-25 22:59 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-26 18:02 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 10/13] fs/xfs: Clean up locking in dax invalidate ira.weiny
2020-02-21 17:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-21 18:06 ` Ira Weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 11/13] fs/xfs: Allow toggle of effective DAX flag ira.weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 12/13] fs/xfs: Remove xfs_diflags_to_linux() ira.weiny
2020-02-21 0:41 ` [PATCH V4 13/13] Documentation/dax: Update Usage section ira.weiny
2020-02-26 22:48 ` [PATCH V4 00/13] Enable per-file/per-directory DAX operations V4 Jeff Moyer
2020-02-27 2:43 ` Ira Weiny
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