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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Yufen Yu <yuyufen@huawei.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, bvanassche@acm.org,
	tytso@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/7] bdi: protect device lifetime with RCU
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 13:50:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200304185056.GM189690@mtj.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200304172221.GA1864270@kroah.com>

Hello,

On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 06:22:21PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> Ugh, I was dreading the fact that this day might sometime come...
> 
> In theory, the reference counting for struct device shouldn't need to
> use rcu at all, right?  what is driving the need to use rcu for

Lifetime rules in block layer are kinda nebulous. Some of it comes
from the fact that some objects are reused. Instead of the usual,
create-use-release, they get repurposed to be associated with
something else. When looking at such an object from some paths, we
don't necessarily have ownership of all of the members.

> backing_device_info?  Are these being destroyed/used so often that rcu
> really is the best solution and the existing reference counting doesn't
> work properly?

It's more that there are entry points which can only ensure that just
the top level object is valid and the member objects might be going or
coming as we're looking at it.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-04 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-26 11:18 [PATCH v2 0/7] bdi: fix use-after-free for bdi device Yufen Yu
2020-02-26 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] blk-wbt: use bdi_dev_name() to get device name Yufen Yu
2020-02-26 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] fs/ceph: " Yufen Yu
2020-02-26 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] bdi: protect device lifetime with RCU Yufen Yu
2020-03-04 17:05   ` Tejun Heo
2020-03-04 17:22     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-04 17:23       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-04 18:50       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2020-03-04 19:10         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-03-04 19:15           ` Tejun Heo
2020-03-04 20:05         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-05  1:22           ` Tejun Heo
2020-03-06 16:25             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-07  9:13               ` Yufen Yu
2020-02-26 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] bdi: create a new function bdi_get_dev_name() Yufen Yu
2020-02-26 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] bfq: fix potential kernel crash when print dev err info Yufen Yu
2020-02-26 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] memcg: fix crash in wb_workfn when bdi unregister Yufen Yu
2020-02-26 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] blk-wbt: replace bdi_dev_name() with bdi_get_dev_name() Yufen Yu
2020-03-04 17:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] bdi: fix use-after-free for bdi device Greg KH
2020-03-04 18:57   ` Tejun Heo
2020-03-04 20:07     ` Greg KH
2020-03-04 19:02   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o

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