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From: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
To: Pavan Kondeti <pkondeti@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@matbug.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/uclamp: Add a new sysctl to control RT default boost value
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 12:46:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200512114657.phb3rx7jeebd5i3w@e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200512021056.GA31725@codeaurora.org>

On 05/12/20 07:40, Pavan Kondeti wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 04:40:52PM +0100, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > RT tasks by default run at the highest capacity/performance level. When
> > uclamp is selected this default behavior is retained by enforcing the
> > requested uclamp.min (p->uclamp_req[UCLAMP_MIN]) of the RT tasks to be
> > uclamp_none(UCLAMP_MAX), which is SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE; the maximum
> > value.
> > 
> > This is also referred to as 'the default boost value of RT tasks'.
> > 
> > See commit 1a00d999971c ("sched/uclamp: Set default clamps for RT tasks").
> > 
> > On battery powered devices, it is desired to control this default
> > (currently hardcoded) behavior at runtime to reduce energy consumed by
> > RT tasks.
> > 
> > For example, a mobile device manufacturer where big.LITTLE architecture
> > is dominant, the performance of the little cores varies across SoCs, and
> > on high end ones the big cores could be too power hungry.
> > 
> > Given the diversity of SoCs, the new knob allows manufactures to tune
> > the best performance/power for RT tasks for the particular hardware they
> > run on.
> > 
> > They could opt to further tune the value when the user selects
> > a different power saving mode or when the device is actively charging.
> > 
> > The runtime aspect of it further helps in creating a single kernel image
> > that can be run on multiple devices that require different tuning.
> > 
> > Keep in mind that a lot of RT tasks in the system are created by the
> > kernel. On Android for instance I can see over 50 RT tasks, only
> > a handful of which created by the Android framework.
> > 
> > To control the default behavior globally by system admins and device
> > integrators, introduce the new sysctl_sched_uclamp_util_min_rt_default
> > to change the default boost value of the RT tasks.
> > 
> > I anticipate this to be mostly in the form of modifying the init script
> > of a particular device.
> > 
> > Whenever the new default changes, it'd be applied lazily on the next
> > opportunity the scheduler needs to calculate the effective uclamp.min
> > value for the task, assuming that it still uses the system default value
> > and not a user applied one.
> > 
> > Tested on Juno-r2 in combination with the RT capacity awareness [1].
> > By default an RT task will go to the highest capacity CPU and run at the
> > maximum frequency, which is particularly energy inefficient on high end
> > mobile devices because the biggest core[s] are 'huge' and power hungry.
> > 
> > With this patch the RT task can be controlled to run anywhere by
> > default, and doesn't cause the frequency to be maximum all the time.
> > Yet any task that really needs to be boosted can easily escape this
> > default behavior by modifying its requested uclamp.min value
> > (p->uclamp_req[UCLAMP_MIN]) via sched_setattr() syscall.
> > 
> > [1] 804d402fb6f6: ("sched/rt: Make RT capacity-aware")
> > 
> 
> I have tested this patch on SDM845 running V5.7-rc4 and it works as expected.
> 
> Default: i.e /proc/sys/kernel/sched_util_clamp_min_rt_default = 1024.
> 
> RT task runs on BIG cluster every time at max frequency. Both effective
> and requested uclamp.min are set to 1024
> 
> With /proc/sys/kernel/sched_util_clamp_min_rt_default = 128
> 
> RT task runs on Little cluster (max capacity is 404) and frequency scaling
> happens as per the change in utilization. Both effective and requested
> uclamp are set to 128.
> 
> Feel free to add
> 
> Tested-by: Pavankumar Kondeti <pkondeti@codeaurora.org>

Thanks Pavan!

--
Qais Yousef

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-12 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 15:40 [PATCH 1/2] sched/uclamp: Add a new sysctl to control RT default boost value Qais Yousef
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation/sysctl: Document uclamp sysctl knobs Qais Yousef
2020-05-11 17:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/uclamp: Add a new sysctl to control RT default boost value Qais Yousef
2020-05-12  2:10 ` Pavan Kondeti
2020-05-12 11:46   ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2020-05-15 11:08 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-05-18  8:31 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-05-18 16:49   ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-28 13:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 15:58   ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-28 16:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 16:51       ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-28 18:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 19:08           ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-05-28 19:20           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-05-29  9:11           ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-29 10:21         ` Mel Gorman
2020-05-29 15:11           ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-29 16:02             ` Mel Gorman
2020-05-29 16:05               ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-29 10:08       ` Mel Gorman
2020-05-29 16:04         ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-29 16:57           ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-02 16:46         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-06-03  8:29           ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-06-03 10:10             ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-03 14:59               ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-03 16:52                 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-04 12:14                   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-05 10:45                     ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-09 15:29                       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-08 12:31                     ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-08 13:06                       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-08 14:44                       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-06-11 10:13                         ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-09 17:10                       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-11 10:24                         ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-11 12:01                           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-23 15:44                             ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-24  8:45                               ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-05  7:55                   ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-06-05 11:32                     ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-05 13:27                       ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-06-03  9:40           ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-03 12:41             ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-04 13:40               ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-05 10:58                 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-11 10:58                 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-16 11:08                   ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-16 13:56                     ` Lukasz Luba
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-04-03 12:30 Qais Yousef
2020-04-14 18:21 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-04-15  7:46   ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-04-20 15:04     ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-20  8:24   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-20 15:19     ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-21  0:52       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-21 11:16         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-21 11:23           ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-20 14:50   ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-15 10:11 ` Quentin Perret
2020-04-20 15:08   ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-20  8:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-20 15:13   ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-21 11:18     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-21 11:27       ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-22 10:59         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-22 13:13           ` Qais Yousef

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