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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	fdmanana@gmail.com, dsterba@suse.cz, david@fromorbit.com,
	darrick.wong@oracle.com, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: always fall back to buffered I/O after invalidation failures, was: Re: [PATCH 2/6] iomap: IOMAP_DIO_RWF_NO_STALE_PAGECACHE return if page invalidation fails
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:57:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200707125705.GK25523@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200707124346.xnr5gtcysuzehejq@fiona>

On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 07:43:46AM -0500, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
> On  9:53 01/07, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 02:23:49PM -0500, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
> > > From: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.com>
> > > 
> > > For direct I/O, add the flag IOMAP_DIO_RWF_NO_STALE_PAGECACHE to indicate
> > > that if the page invalidation fails, return back control to the
> > > filesystem so it may fallback to buffered mode.
> > > 
> > > Reviewed-by: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.com>
> > 
> > I'd like to start a discussion of this shouldn't really be the
> > default behavior.  If we have page cache that can't be invalidated it
> > actually makes a whole lot of sense to not do direct I/O, avoid the
> > warnings, etc.
> > 
> > Adding all the relevant lists.
> 
> Since no one responded so far, let me see if I can stir the cauldron :)
> 
> What error should be returned in case of such an error? I think the

Christoph's message is ambiguous.  I don't know if he means "fail the
I/O with an error" or "satisfy the I/O through the page cache".  I'm
strongly in favour of the latter.  Indeed, I'm in favour of not invalidating
the page cache at all for direct I/O.  For reads, I think the page cache
should be used to satisfy any portion of the read which is currently
cached.  For writes, I think we should write into the page cache pages
which currently exist, and then force those pages to be written back,
but left in cache.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-07 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-29 19:23 [PATCH 0/6 v10] btrfs direct-io using iomap Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-29 19:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] iomap: Convert wait_for_completion to flags Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-29 23:03   ` David Sterba
2020-06-30 16:35   ` David Sterba
2020-07-01  7:34     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-07-01  7:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-29 19:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] iomap: IOMAP_DIO_RWF_NO_STALE_PAGECACHE return if page invalidation fails Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-07-01  7:53   ` always fall back to buffered I/O after invalidation failures, was: " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-07 12:43     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-07-07 12:57       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-07-07 13:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-08  6:51           ` Dave Chinner
2020-07-08 13:54             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-08 16:54               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-08 17:11                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-09  8:26                 ` [Cluster-devel] " Steven Whitehouse
2020-07-09  2:25               ` Dave Chinner
2020-07-09 16:09                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-09 17:05                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-09 17:10                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-09 22:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2020-07-10 16:03                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-12 11:36                 ` Avi Kivity
2020-07-07 13:49         ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-07-07 14:01           ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-07 14:30             ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-29 19:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] btrfs: switch to iomap_dio_rw() for dio Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-29 19:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] fs: remove dio_end_io() Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-29 19:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] btrfs: remove BTRFS_INODE_READDIO_NEED_LOCK Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-29 19:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] btrfs: split btrfs_direct_IO to read and write part Goldwyn Rodrigues

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