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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 20:01:59 +0100
Message-ID: <20200920190159.GT32101@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200920180742.GN3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 07:07:42PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> 	2) a few drivers are really fucked in head.  They use different
> *DATA* layouts for reads/writes, depending upon the calling process.
> IOW, if you fork/exec a 32bit binary and your stdin is one of those,
> reads from stdin in parent and child will yield different data layouts.
> On the same struct file.
> 	That's what Christoph worries about (/dev/sg he'd mentioned is
> one of those).
> 
> 	IMO we should simply have that dozen or so of pathological files
> marked with FMODE_SHITTY_ABI; it's not about how they'd been opened -
> it describes the userland ABI provided by those.  And it's cast in stone.
> 
> 	Any in_compat_syscall() in ->read()/->write() instances is an ABI
> bug, plain and simple.  Some are unfixable for compatibility reasons, but
> any new caller like that should be a big red flag.

So an IOCB_COMPAT flag would let us know whether the caller is expecting
a 32-bit or 64-bit layout?  And io_uring could set it based on the
ctx->compat flag.

> 	Current list of those turds:
> /dev/sg (pointer-chasing, generally insane)
> /sys/firmware/efi/vars/*/raw_var (fucked binary structure)
> /sys/firmware/efi/vars/new_var (fucked binary structure)
> /sys/firmware/efi/vars/del_var (fucked binary structure)
> /dev/uhid	(pointer-chasing for one obsolete command)
> /dev/input/event* (timestamps)
> /dev/uinput (timestamps)
> /proc/bus/input/devices (fucked bitmap-to-text representation)
> /sys/class/input/*/capabilities/* (fucked bitmap-to-text representation)

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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-18 12:45 let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:40   ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 13:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:58       ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 15:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 16:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 21:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-19 21:52               ` Finn Thain
2020-09-19 22:22               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 16:10                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 16:13                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 23:51                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22  0:22                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22  0:58                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22  6:30                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22  7:23                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22  7:57                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22  9:01                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 16:20                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-23  8:01                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-23 13:22                                     ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:09           ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:23             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 22:41               ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:53                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 23:24                   ` Al Viro
2020-09-20  0:14                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20  2:57                       ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 16:59                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 18:12                           ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 13:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:02               ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 14:53         ` David Laight
2020-09-18 13:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:15   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 15:55     ` William Kucharski
2020-09-21 16:20       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 16:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 18:07     ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 18:41       ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:01       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-09-20 19:10         ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:22           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:28             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 20:49               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 21:13                 ` David Laight
2020-09-21 16:31                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 21:42             ` Al Viro
2020-09-21 16:26             ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 19:14       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21  4:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] compat.h: fix a spelling error in <linux/compat.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:37   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 3/9] fs: explicitly check for CHECK_IOVEC_ONLY in rw_copy_check_uvector Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:56   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-18 13:39   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] fs: handle the compat case in import_iovec Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 5/9] fs: remove various compat readv/writev helpers Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 6/9] fs: remove the compat readv/writev syscalls Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 7/9] fs: remove compat_sys_vmsplice Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: remove compat_process_vm_{readv,writev} Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:48   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 9/9] security/keys: remove compat_keyctl_instantiate_key_iov Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 14:24 ` let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well David Laight
2020-09-21  4:41   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2020-09-21 11:11     ` David Laight

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