From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0489C48BDF for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 03:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853F4613AE for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 03:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230454AbhFKDCo (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 23:02:44 -0400 Received: from wtarreau.pck.nerim.net ([62.212.114.60]:55624 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230001AbhFKDCm (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 23:02:42 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by pcw.home.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15B2xgZD025772; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 04:59:42 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 04:59:42 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Toke =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= Cc: Shuah Khan , Steven Rostedt , Laurent Pinchart , Konstantin Ryabitsev , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , David Hildenbrand , James Bottomley , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , "Theodore Ts'o" , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off Message-ID: <20210611025942.GE25638@1wt.eu> References: <5038827c-463f-232d-4dec-da56c71089bd@metux.net> <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> <20210610152633.7e4a7304@oasis.local.home> <37e8d1a5-7c32-8e77-bb05-f851c87a1004@linuxfoundation.org> <87tum5uyrq.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87tum5uyrq.fsf@toke.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 12:43:05AM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Shuah Khan writes: > > I have a > > couple of ideas on how we might be able to improve remote experience > > without restricting in-person experience. > > > > - Have one or two moderators per session to watch chat and Q&A to enable > > remote participants to chime in and participate. > > - Moderators can make sure remote participation doesn't go unnoticed and > > enable taking turns for remote vs. people participating in person. > > > > It will be change in the way we interact in all in-person sessions for > > sure, however it might enhance the experience for remote attendees. > > This is basically how IETF meetings function: At the beginning of every > session, a volunteer "jabber scribe" is selected to watch the chat and > relay any questions to a microphone in the room. And the video streaming > platform has a "virtual queue" that remove participants can enter and > the session chairs are then responsible for giving people a chance to > speak. Works reasonably well, I'd say :) I was about to say the same. In addition, local participants line up at a microphone and do not interrupt the speaker, but the organiser gives them the signal to ask a question. This allows to maintain a good balance between local and remote participants. Also it's common to see some locals go back to their seat because someone else just asked the same question. And when remote questions are asked using pure text, it's easy for the organiser to skip them if already responded as well. This method is rather efficient because it doesn't require to keep the questions for the end of the session, yet questions do not interrupt the speaker. It also solves the problem of people not speaking in the microphone. The only thing is that it can be quite intimidating for local participants who are too shy of standing up in front of a microphone and everyone else. Just my two cents, Willy