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From: Laurent Vivier <laurent@vivier.eu>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	YunQiang Su <ysu@wavecomp.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] binfmt_misc: pass binfmt_misc flags to the interpreter
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:07:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20e6c345-b984-7b28-4d3f-c8f3799b8579@vivier.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200115135527.GG8904@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

Le 15/01/2020 à 14:55, Al Viro a écrit :
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 01:19:16PM +0100, Laurent Vivier wrote:
>> Le 07/01/2020 à 15:50, Laurent Vivier a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this change is simple, easy to read and understand but it is really
>>> needed by user space application interpreter to know the status of the
>>> system configuration.
>>>
>>> Could we have a comment saying if there is a problem or if it is good to
>>> be merged?
>>
>> Anyone?
> 
> 	FWIW, one thing that looks worrying here is that these bits become
> userland ABI after this patch - specific values passed in that thing
> can't be changed.  And no a single mention of that in fs/binfmt_misc.c,
> leaving a nasty trap.  As far as one can tell, their values are fair game
> for reordering, etc. - not even visible outside of fs/binfmt_misc.c;
> purely internal constants.  And the effect of such modifications after
> your patch will not be "everything breaks, patch gets caught by somebody's
> tests" - it will be a quiet breakage for some users.
> 
>>>>  #define MISC_FMT_OPEN_BINARY (1 << 30)
>>>>  #define MISC_FMT_CREDENTIALS (1 << 29)
>>>>  #define MISC_FMT_OPEN_FILE (1 << 28)
>>>> +#define MISC_FMT_FLAGS_MASK (MISC_FMT_PRESERVE_ARGV0 | MISC_FMT_OPEN_BINARY | \
>>>> +			     MISC_FMT_CREDENTIALS | MISC_FMT_OPEN_FILE)
> 
> IOW, you are making those parts of userland ABI cast in stone forever.
> Whether this bit assignment does make sense or not, such things really
> should not be hidden.
> 

Thank you for your answer.

So I think the patch from YunQiang Su is a better approach than mine,
much cleaner, see:

  binfmt_misc: pass info about P flag by AT_FLAGS
  https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10902935/

It does the same thing as my patch but uses a dedicated value for AT_FLAGS.

Perhaps YunQiang can send a new version (without the kdebug() part)?

Thanks,
Laurent

      reply	other threads:[~2020-01-15 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-22 15:08 [RFC v2] binfmt_misc: pass binfmt_misc flags to the interpreter Laurent Vivier
2019-12-03  9:40 ` Laurent Vivier
2019-12-16  9:22 ` Laurent Vivier
2019-12-26 14:08   ` [EXTERNAL]Re: " Yunqiang Su
2020-01-07 14:50 ` Laurent Vivier
2020-01-15 12:19   ` Laurent Vivier
2020-01-15 13:55     ` Al Viro
2020-01-15 14:07       ` Laurent Vivier [this message]

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