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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <84C253EB-B348-4B62-B863-F192FBA8C202@lca.pw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 20020314-0008-0000-0000-0000034F4DD3 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 20020314-0009-0000-0000-00004A6FD797 Message-Id: <34467005-1742-47a0-cd2b-05567584b91e@de.ibm.com> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.138,18.0.572 definitions=2020-02-03_04:2020-02-02,2020-02-03 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=811 suspectscore=27 phishscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 impostorscore=0 priorityscore=1501 clxscore=1015 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-1911200001 definitions=main-2002030107 Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On 29.01.20 19:39, Qian Cai wrote: > > >> On Jan 29, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Grzegorz Halat wrote: >> >> Memory management subsystem performs various checks at runtime, >> if an inconsistency is detected then such event is being logged and kernel >> continues to run. While debugging such problems it is helpful to collect >> memory dump as early as possible. Currently, there is no easy way to panic >> kernel when such error is detected. >> >> It was proposed[1] to panic the kernel if panic_on_oops is set but this >> approach was not accepted. One of alternative proposals was introduction of >> a new sysctl. >> >> Add a new sysctl - panic_on_inconsistent_mm. If the sysctl is set then the >> kernel will be crashed when an inconsistency is detected by memory >> management. This currently means panic when bad page or bad PTE >> is detected(this may be extended to other places in MM). >> >> Another use case of this sysctl may be in security-wise environments, >> it may be more desired to crash machine than continue to run with >> potentially damaged data structures. > > It is annoying that I have to repeat my feedback, but I don’t know why > admins want to enable this by allowing normal users to crash the systems > more easily through recoverable MM bugs where I am sure we have plenty. > How does that improve the security? There are cases where data corruption is a no-go, while "one node going down" is acceptable. And then there is also the case for payed service providers that often need a dump at the time of the problem to understand rare issues. So I DO see value in such a thing. We should just piggy-back on panic_on_warn I guess.