From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E806C43381 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FD820989 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726907AbfCRSxO convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:53:14 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:36128 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726677AbfCRSxO (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:53:14 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44C2CC1306F1; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from llong.remote.csb (dhcp-17-19.bos.redhat.com [10.18.17.19]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDD6620DF; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 3/3] ipc: Do cyclic id allocation with ipcmni_extend mode From: Waiman Long To: Manfred Spraul , "Luis R. 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So >>> the chance of id reuse is relatively high compared with the non-extended >>> mode. >>> >>> To alleviate this id reuse problem, the id allocation will be done >>> cyclically to cycle through all the 24-bit id space before wrapping >>> around when in ipcmni_extend mode. This may cause the use of more memory >>> in term of the number of xa_nodes allocated as well as potentially more >>> cachelines used as the xa_nodes may be spread more sparsely in this >>> case. >>> >>> There is probably a slight memory and performance cost in doing cyclic >>> id allocation. For applications that really need more than 32k unique >>> IPC >>> identifiers, this is a small price to pay to avoid the id reuse problem. >> Have you measured it? >> >> I have observed -3% for semop() for a 4 level radix tree compared to a >> 1-level radix tree, and I'm a bit reluctant to accept that. >> Especially as the percentage will increase if the syscall overhead >> goes down again (-> less spectre impact). >> > It is both Spectre (retpoline) and Meltdown (PTI). PTI is not needed in > AMD CPU and so you may see a bit higher slowdown. The use of idr_replace() in your previous patch may also slow the code path a bit to reduce the performance difference that you saw. This is actually my main concern with using idr_replace() as suggested by Matthew, but I am OK to use it if people think absolute correctness is more important. Cheers, Longman