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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:13:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <486c92d0-0f2e-bd61-1ab8-302524af5e08@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <563138b5-7073-74bc-f0c5-b2bad6277e87@gmail.com>

On 21/09/2020 19:10, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 20/09/2020 01:22, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 6:21 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:16 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
>>>>>> Said that, why not provide a variant that would take an explicit
>>>>>> "is it compat" argument and use it there?  And have the normal
>>>>>> one pass in_compat_syscall() to that...
>>>>>
>>>>> That would help to not introduce a regression with this series yes.
>>>>> But it wouldn't fix existing bugs when io_uring is used to access
>>>>> read or write methods that use in_compat_syscall().  One example that
>>>>> I recently ran into is drivers/scsi/sg.c.
>>>
>>> Ah, so reading /dev/input/event* would suffer from the same issue,
>>> and that one would in fact be broken by your patch in the hypothetical
>>> case that someone tried to use io_uring to read /dev/input/event on x32...
>>>
>>> For reference, I checked the socket timestamp handling that has a
>>> number of corner cases with time32/time64 formats in compat mode,
>>> but none of those appear to be affected by the problem.
>>>
>>>> Aside from the potentially nasty use of per-task variables, one thing
>>>> I don't like about PF_FORCE_COMPAT is that it's one-way.  If we're
>>>> going to have a generic mechanism for this, shouldn't we allow a full
>>>> override of the syscall arch instead of just allowing forcing compat
>>>> so that a compat syscall can do a non-compat operation?
>>>
>>> The only reason it's needed here is that the caller is in a kernel
>>> thread rather than a system call. Are there any possible scenarios
>>> where one would actually need the opposite?
>>>
>>
>> I can certainly imagine needing to force x32 mode from a kernel thread.
>>
>> As for the other direction: what exactly are the desired bitness/arch semantics of io_uring?  Is the operation bitness chosen by the io_uring creation or by the io_uring_enter() bitness?
> 
> It's rather the second one. Even though AFAIR it wasn't discussed
> specifically, that how it works now (_partially_).

Double checked -- I'm wrong, that's the former one. Most of it is based
on a flag that was set an creation.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-21 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-18 12:45 let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:40   ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 13:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:58       ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 15:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 16:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 21:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-19 21:52               ` Finn Thain
2020-09-19 22:22               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 16:10                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 16:13                   ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2020-09-21 23:51                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22  0:22                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22  0:58                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22  6:30                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22  7:23                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22  7:57                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22  9:01                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 16:20                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-23  8:01                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-23 13:22                                     ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:09           ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:23             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 22:41               ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:53                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 23:24                   ` Al Viro
2020-09-20  0:14                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20  2:57                       ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 16:59                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 18:12                           ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 13:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:02               ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 14:53         ` David Laight
2020-09-18 13:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:15   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 15:55     ` William Kucharski
2020-09-21 16:20       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 16:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 18:07     ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 18:41       ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:01       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:10         ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:22           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:28             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 20:49               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 21:13                 ` David Laight
2020-09-21 16:31                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 21:42             ` Al Viro
2020-09-21 16:26             ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 19:14       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21  4:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] compat.h: fix a spelling error in <linux/compat.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:37   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 3/9] fs: explicitly check for CHECK_IOVEC_ONLY in rw_copy_check_uvector Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:56   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-18 13:39   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] fs: handle the compat case in import_iovec Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 5/9] fs: remove various compat readv/writev helpers Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 6/9] fs: remove the compat readv/writev syscalls Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 7/9] fs: remove compat_sys_vmsplice Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: remove compat_process_vm_{readv,writev} Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:48   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 9/9] security/keys: remove compat_keyctl_instantiate_key_iov Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 14:24 ` let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well David Laight
2020-09-21  4:41   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2020-09-21 11:11     ` David Laight

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