From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Un-addressable device memory and block/fs implications
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:08:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4accd272-7214-c702-aed3-fb131f178162@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161213212433.GF2305@redhat.com>
On 12/13/2016 01:24 PM, Jerome Glisse wrote:
>
>>> > > From kernel point of view such memory is almost like any other, it
>>> > > has a struct page and most of the mm code is non the wiser, nor need
>>> > > to be about it. CPU access trigger a migration back to regular CPU
>>> > > accessible page.
>> >
>> > That sounds ... complex. Page migration on page cache access inside
>> > the filesytem IO path locking during read()/write() sounds like
>> > a great way to cause deadlocks....
> There are few restriction on device page, no one can do GUP on them and
> thus no one can pin them. Hence they can always be migrated back. Yes
> each fs need modification, most of it (if not all) is isolated in common
> filemap helpers.
Huh, that's pretty different from the other ZONE_DEVICE uses. For
those, you *can* do get_user_pages().
I'd be really interested to see the feature set that these pages have
and how it differs from regular memory and the ZONE_DEVICE memory that
have have in-kernel today.
BTW, how is this restriction implemented? I would have expected to see
follow_page_pte() or vm_normal_page() getting modified. I don't see a
single reference to get_user_pages or "GUP" in any of the latest HMM
patch set or the changelogs.
As best I can tell, the slow GUP path will get stuck in a loop inside
follow_page_pte(), while the fast GUP path will allow you to acquire a
reference to the page. But, maybe I'm reading the code wrong.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-13 22:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-13 18:15 [LSF/MM TOPIC] Un-addressable device memory and block/fs implications Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 18:20 ` James Bottomley
2016-12-13 18:55 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:01 ` James Bottomley
2016-12-13 20:22 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:27 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-13 20:15 ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 20:31 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 21:10 ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 21:24 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 22:08 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2016-12-13 23:02 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 22:13 ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 22:55 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 0:14 ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-14 1:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 4:23 ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-14 16:35 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 11:13 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2016-12-14 17:15 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-15 16:19 ` Jan Kara
2016-12-15 19:14 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-16 8:14 ` Jan Kara
2016-12-16 3:10 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-19 8:46 ` Jan Kara
2016-12-19 17:00 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-14 3:55 ` Balbir Singh
2016-12-16 3:14 ` [LSF/MM ATTEND] " Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-01-16 12:04 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-16 23:15 ` John Hubbard
2017-01-18 11:00 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
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