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From: Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke <thavatchai.makpahibulchoke@hp.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: T Makphaibulchoke <tmac@hp.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org List" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Devel"
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	aswin@hp.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	aswin_proj@lists.hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] ext4: increase mbcache scalability
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:10:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <522F5275.7050001@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130910210250.GH29237@thunk.org>

On 09/10/2013 09:02 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 02:47:33PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>> I agree that SELinux is enabled on enterprise distributions by default,
>> but I'm also interested to know how much overhead this imposes.  I would
>> expect that writing large external xattrs for each file would have quite
>> a significant performance overhead that should not be ignored.  Reducing
>> the mbcache overhead is good, but eliminating it entirely is better.
> 
> I was under the impression that using a 256 byte inode (which gives a
> bit over 100 bytes worth of xattr space) was plenty for SELinux.  If
> it turns out that SELinux's use of xattrs have gotten especially
> piggy, then we may need to revisit the recommended inode size for
> those systems who insist on using SELinux...  even if we eliminate the
> overhead associated with mbcache, the fact that files are requiring a
> separate xattr is going to seriously degrade performance.
> 
> 	       	  	   	     - Ted
> 

Thank you Andreas and Ted for the explanations and comments.  Yes, I see both of your points now.  Though we may reduce the mbcache overhead, due to the overhead of additional xattr I/O it would be better to provide some data to help users or distros to determine whether they will be better off completely disabling SELinux or increasing the inode size.  I will go ahead and run the suggested experiments and get back with the results.

Thanks,
Mak.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-10 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-18  0:55 [PATCH 0/2] ext4: increase mbcache scalability T Makphaibulchoke
2013-08-22 15:54 ` [PATCH v2 " T Makphaibulchoke
2013-08-22 15:54   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mbcache: decoupling the locking of local from global data T Makphaibulchoke
2013-08-22 16:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 15:33       ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2013-08-22 15:54   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ext4: each filesystem creates and uses its own mc_cache T Makphaibulchoke
2014-01-24 18:31   ` [PATCH v4 0/3] ext4: increase mbcache scalability T Makphaibulchoke
2014-01-24 18:31     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] fs/mbcache.c change block and index hash chain to hlist_bl_node T Makphaibulchoke
2014-01-24 18:31     ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mbcache: decoupling the locking of local from global data T Makphaibulchoke
2014-01-24 18:31     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] ext4: each filesystem creates and uses its own mc_cache T Makphaibulchoke
2014-01-24 21:38     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] ext4: increase mbcache scalability Andi Kleen
2014-01-25  1:13       ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2014-01-25  6:09       ` Andreas Dilger
2014-01-27 12:27         ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2014-02-09 19:46         ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2014-02-11 19:58         ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2014-02-13  2:01           ` Andreas Dilger
2013-09-04 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " T Makphaibulchoke
2013-09-04 16:39   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] mbcache: decoupling the locking of local from global data T Makphaibulchoke
2013-10-30 13:27     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-30 14:42     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-30 17:32       ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2013-09-04 16:39   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ext4: each filesystem creates and uses its own mb_cache T Makphaibulchoke
2013-10-30 14:30     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-04 20:00   ` [PATCH v3 0/2] ext4: increase mbcache scalability Andreas Dilger
2013-09-04 15:33     ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2013-09-05 15:22     ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2013-09-05  2:35   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-05  9:49     ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2013-09-06  5:10       ` Andreas Dilger
2013-09-06 12:23         ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2013-09-10 20:47           ` Andreas Dilger
2013-09-10 21:02             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 17:10               ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke [this message]
2013-09-11  3:13               ` Eric Sandeen
2013-09-11 11:30                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 16:49                   ` Eric Sandeen
2013-09-11 19:33                     ` Eric Sandeen
2013-09-11 20:32                     ` David Lang
2013-09-11 20:48                       ` Eric Sandeen
2013-09-11 21:25                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 20:36                           ` Thavatchai Makphaibulchoke
2013-09-12  3:42                             ` Eric Sandeen
2014-02-20 18:37 ` [PATCH V5 0/3] " T Makphaibulchoke
2014-02-20 18:37   ` [PATCH V5 1/3] fs/mbcache.c change block and index hash chain to hlist_bl_node T Makphaibulchoke
2014-02-20 18:37   ` [PATCH V5 2/3] mbcache: decoupling the locking of local from global data T Makphaibulchoke
2014-02-20 18:37   ` [PATCH V5 3/3] ext4: each filesystem creates and uses its own mb_cache T Makphaibulchoke
2014-03-12 16:19 ` [PATCH v5 RESEND 0/3] ext4: increase mbcache scalability T Makphaibulchoke
2014-03-12 16:19   ` [PATCH v5 RESEND 1/3] fs/mbcache.c change block and index hash chain to hlist_bl_node T Makphaibulchoke
2014-03-12 16:19   ` [PATCH v5 RESEND 2/3] mbcache: decoupling the locking of local from global data T Makphaibulchoke
2014-03-12 16:19   ` [PATCH v5 RESEND 3/3] ext4: each filesystem creates and uses its own mb_cache T Makphaibulchoke

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