From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Stroetmann Subject: Re: Tux3 Report: How fast can we fsync? Date: Sat, 02 May 2015 19:00:10 +0200 Message-ID: <5545029A.20608@ontolab.com> References: <8f886f13-6550-4322-95be-93244ae61045@phunq.net> <20150430014616.GZ15810@dastard> <81488fcb-b5d5-4761-b8ae-936dce9c1f89@phunq.net> <20150501153855.GB15810@dastard> <55440A56.8000207@phunq.net> <5544F4BA.5060603@ontolab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Phillips , David Lang , Dave Chinner , LKML , linux-fsdevel , tux3@tux3.org, Theodore Ts'o To: Richard Weinberger Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org On 2nd of May 2015 18:30, Richard Weinberger wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann > wrote: >> On the 2nd of May 2015 12:26, Daniel Phillips wrote: >> >> Aloha everybody >> >>> On Friday, May 1, 2015 6:07:48 PM PDT, David Lang wrote: >>>> On Fri, 1 May 2015, Daniel Phillips wrote: >>>>> On Friday, May 1, 2015 8:38:55 AM PDT, Dave Chinner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, yes - I never claimed XFS is a general purpose filesystem. It >>>>>> is a high performance filesystem. Is is also becoming more relevant >>>>>> to general purpose systems as low cost storage gains capabilities >>>>>> that used to be considered the domain of high performance storage... >>>>> >>>>> OK. Well, Tux3 is general purpose and that means we care about single >>>>> spinning disk and small systems. >>>> >>>> keep in mind that if you optimize only for the small systems you may not >>>> scale as well to the larger ones. >>> >>> Tux3 is designed to scale, and it will when the time comes. I look forward >>> to putting Shardmap through its billion file test in due course. However, >>> right now it would be wise to stay focused on basic functionality suited to >>> a workstation because volunteer devs tend to have those. After that, phones >>> are a natural direction, where hard core ACID commit and really smooth file >>> ops are particularly attractive. >>> >> Has anybody else a deja vu? > Yes, the onto-troll strikes again... > Everybody has her/his own interpretation about what open source means. I really thought there could be some kind of a constructive discussion about such a file system or at least about interesting technical features that can be used for other file systems like e.g. a potential EXT5, when I relaxed my position some days ago and proposed that also ideas are referenced correctly in relation with open source projects, specifically in relation with Tux3. Now, I have the impression that this is not possible and due to this any progress is hard to achieve. Thanks Best Regards Do not feed the trolls. C.S.