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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] iov_iter fixes
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 15:19:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5971af96-78b7-8304-3e25-00dc2da3c538@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiacKV4Gh-MYjteU0LwNBSGpWrK-Ov25HdqB1ewinrFPg@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/9/21 1:37 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 9:24 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>         Fixes for io-uring handling of iov_iter reexpands
> 
> Ugh.
> 
> I have pulled this, because I understand what it does and I agree it
> fixes a bug, but it really feels very very hacky and wrong to me.
> 
> It really smells like io-uring is doing a "iov_iter_revert()" using a
> number that it pulls incorrectly out of its arse.
> 
> So when io-uring does that
> 
>                 iov_iter_revert(iter, io_size - iov_iter_count(iter));
> 
> what it *really* wants to do is just basically "iov_iter_reset(iter)".
> 
> And that's basically what that addition of that "iov_iter_reexpand()"
> tries to effectively do.
> 
> Wouldn't it be better to have a function that does exactly that?

That might indeed be better. Alternatively, consumers that truncate
should expand. Part of the problem here is the inconsistency in how they
are consumed.

> Alternatively (and I'm cc'ing Jens) is is not possible for the
> io-uring code to know how many bytes it *actually* used, rather than
> saying that "ok, the iter originally had X bytes, now it has Y bytes,
> so it must have used X-Y bytes" which was actively wrong for the case
> where something ended up truncating the IO for some reason.

Not sure how we'd do that, outside of stupid tricks like copy the
iov_iter before we pass it down. But that's obviously not going to be
very efficient. Hence we're left with having some way to reset/reexpand,
even in the presence of someone having done truncate on it.

> Because I note that io-uring does that
> 
>         /* may have left rw->iter inconsistent on -EIOCBQUEUED */
>         iov_iter_revert(&rw->iter, req->result - iov_iter_count(&rw->iter));
> 
> in io_resubmit_prep() too, and that you guys missed that it's the
> exact same issue, and needs that exact same iov_iter_reexpand().

I think you're right on that one, there's no difference between that use
case and the other two...

> That "req->result" is once again the *original* length, and the above
> code once again mis-handles the case of "oh, the iov got truncated
> because of some IO limit".
> 
> So I've pulled this, but I think it is
> 
>  (a) ugly nasty
> 
>  (b) incomplete and misses a case
> 
> and needs more thought. At the VERY least it needs that
> iov_iter_reexpand() in io_resubmit_prep() too, I think.
> 
> I'd like the comments expanded too. In particular that
> 
>                 /* some cases will consume bytes even on error returns */

That comment is from me, and it goes back a few years. IIRC, it was the
iomap or xfs code that I hit this with, but honestly I don't remember
all the details at this point. I can try and play with it and see if it
still reproduces.

> really should expand on the "some cases" thing, and why such an error
> isn't fatal buye should be retried asynchronously blindly like this?

That would certainly make it easier to handle, as we'd never need to
care at that point. Ideally, return 'bytes_consumed' or error. It might
have been a case of -EAGAIN after truncate, I'll have to dig a bit to
find it again. Outside of that error, we don't retry as there's no point
in doing so.

> Because I think _that_ is part of the fundamental issue here - the
> io_uring code tries to just blindly re-submit the whole thing, and it
> does it very badly and actually incorrectly.
> 
> Or am I missing something?

I think the key point here is re-figuring out where the
consumption-on-error comes from. If it just ends up being a truncated
iov, that's all good and fine. If not, that feels like a bug somewhere
else that needs fixing.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-09 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-09  4:22 [git pull] iov_iter fixes Al Viro
2021-09-09 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-09 21:19   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-09-09 21:39     ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-09 21:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-09 22:21         ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-09 22:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-10  1:35             ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10  2:43               ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10  2:48               ` Al Viro
2021-09-10  3:06                 ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10  3:15                   ` Al Viro
2021-09-10  3:23                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10  3:24                     ` Al Viro
2021-09-10  3:28                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-13 15:29                 ` David Laight
2021-09-09 21:42     ` Dave Chinner
2021-09-10  2:57     ` Al Viro
2021-09-10  3:05       ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10  3:11         ` Al Viro
2021-09-10  3:22           ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10  3:27             ` Al Viro
2021-09-10  3:30               ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10  3:36                 ` Al Viro
2021-09-10 13:57                   ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 14:42                     ` Al Viro
2021-09-10 15:08                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 15:32                         ` Al Viro
2021-09-10 15:36                           ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 15:04                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 16:06                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 16:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-10 16:56                         ` Al Viro
2021-09-10 16:58                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-10 17:26                             ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 17:31                               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-10 17:32                                 ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 18:48                                 ` Al Viro
2021-09-10 19:04                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-10 19:10                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-10 19:10                                   ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-10 17:04                           ` Jens Axboe
2021-09-09 22:54   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-09-09 22:57     ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-09-09 23:14   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-09-09 20:03 ` pr-tracker-bot

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