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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
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	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/7] mm: introduce page_offline_(begin|end|freeze|unfreeze) to synchronize setting PageOffline()
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 17:10:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8650f764-8652-a82c-c54f-f67401c800e8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YJKcg06C3xE8fCfu@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 05.05.21 15:24, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 29-04-21 14:25:17, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> A driver might set a page logically offline -- PageOffline() -- and
>> turn the page inaccessible in the hypervisor; after that, access to page
>> content can be fatal. One example is virtio-mem; while unplugged memory
>> -- marked as PageOffline() can currently be read in the hypervisor, this
>> will no longer be the case in the future; for example, when having
>> a virtio-mem device backed by huge pages in the hypervisor.
>>
>> Some special PFN walkers -- i.e., /proc/kcore -- read content of random
>> pages after checking PageOffline(); however, these PFN walkers can race
>> with drivers that set PageOffline().
>>
>> Let's introduce page_offline_(begin|end|freeze|unfreeze) for
>> synchronizing.
>>
>> page_offline_freeze()/page_offline_unfreeze() allows for a subsystem to
>> synchronize with such drivers, achieving that a page cannot be set
>> PageOffline() while frozen.
>>
>> page_offline_begin()/page_offline_end() is used by drivers that care about
>> such races when setting a page PageOffline().
>>
>> For simplicity, use a rwsem for now; neither drivers nor users are
>> performance sensitive.
> 
> Please add a note to the PageOffline documentation as well. While are
> adding the api close enough an explicit note there wouldn't hurt.

Will do.

> 
>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> 
> As to the patch itself, I am slightly worried that other pfn walkers
> might be less tolerant to the locking than the proc ones. On the other
> hand most users shouldn't really care as they do not tend to touch the
> memory content and PageOffline check without any synchronization should
> be sufficient for those. Let's try this out and see where we get...

My thinking. Users that actually read random page content (as discussed 
in the cover letter) are

1. Hibernation
2. Dumping (/proc/kcore, /proc/vmcore)
3. Physical memory access bypassing the kernel via /dev/mem
4. Live debug tools (kgdb)

Other PFN walkers really shouldn't (and don't) access random page content.

Thanks!

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-05 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29 12:25 [PATCH v1 0/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 1/7] fs/proc/kcore: drop KCORE_REMAP and KCORE_OTHER David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 2/7] fs/proc/kcore: pfn_is_ram check only applies to KCORE_RAM David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 3/7] mm: rename and move page_is_poisoned() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-05 13:13   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:27       ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:45           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  1:08             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  0:56         ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:06           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  7:28             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:55               ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  8:52                 ` Aili Yao
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 4/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 5/7] mm: introduce page_offline_(begin|end|freeze|unfreeze) to synchronize setting PageOffline() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:24   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 15:10     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-05-05 17:41       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 6/7] virtio-mem: use page_offline_(start|end) when " David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03  8:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 7/7] fs/proc/kcore: use page_offline_(freeze|unfreeze) David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:34   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:28     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03  9:28       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 10:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03 11:33           ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 11:35             ` David Hildenbrand

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