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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
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Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH] mm: proc: add Sock to /proc/meminfo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:38:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d1558e7-cd09-1f9e-edab-5f22c5bfc342@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201013080906.GD4251@kernel.org>

On 10/13/20 10:09 AM, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>> We are not complaining about TCP using too much memory, but how do
>> we know that TCP uses a lot of memory. When I firstly face this problem,
>> I do not know who uses the 25GB memory and it is not shown in the /proc/meminfo.
>> If we can know the amount memory of the socket buffer via /proc/meminfo, we
>> may not need to spend a lot of time troubleshooting this problem. Not everyone
>> knows that a lot of memory may be used here. But I believe many people
>> should know /proc/meminfo to confirm memory users.
> If I undestand correctly, the problem you are trying to solve is to
> simplify troubleshooting of memory usage for people who may not be aware
> that networking stack can be a large memory consumer.
> 
> For that a paragraph in 'man 5 proc' maybe a good start:

Yeah. Another major consumer that I've seen at some point was xfs buffers. And 
there might be others, and adding everything to /proc/meminfo is not feasible. I 
have once proposed adding a counter called "Unaccounted:" which would at least 
tell the user easily if a significant portion is occupied by memory not 
explained by the other meminfo counters, and look for trends (increase = 
potential memory leak?). For specific prominent consumers not covered by meminfo 
but that have some kind of internal counters, we could document where to look, 
such as /proc/net/sockstat or maybe create some /proc/ or /sys directory with 
file per consumer so that it's still easy to check, but without the overhead of 
global counters and bloated /proc/meminfo?

>  From ddbcf38576d1a2b0e36fe25a27350d566759b664 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Mike Rapoport<rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:07:35 +0300
> Subject: [PATCH] proc.5: meminfo: add not anout network stack memory
>   consumption
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mike Rapoport<rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
>   man5/proc.5 | 8 ++++++++
>   1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/man5/proc.5 b/man5/proc.5
> index ed309380b..8414676f1 100644
> --- a/man5/proc.5
> +++ b/man5/proc.5
> @@ -3478,6 +3478,14 @@ Except as noted below,
>   all of the fields have been present since at least Linux 2.6.0.
>   Some fields are displayed only if the kernel was configured
>   with various options; those dependencies are noted in the list.
> +.IP
> +Note that significant part of memory allocated by the network stack
> +is not accounted in the file.
> +The memory consumption of the network stack can be queried
> +using
> +.IR /proc/net/sockstat
> +or
> +.BR ss (8)
>   .RS
>   .TP
>   .IR MemTotal " %lu"
> -- 2.25.4


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-16 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-10 10:38 [PATCH] mm: proc: add Sock to /proc/meminfo Muchun Song
2020-10-10 16:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-11  4:42   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-10-11 13:52 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-10-11 16:00   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-10-11 18:39 ` Cong Wang
2020-10-12  4:22   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-10-12  7:42     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-10-12  8:39       ` Muchun Song
2020-10-12  9:24         ` Eric Dumazet
2020-10-12  9:53           ` Muchun Song
2020-10-12 22:12             ` Cong Wang
2020-10-13  3:52               ` Muchun Song
2020-10-13  6:55             ` Eric Dumazet
2020-10-13  8:09             ` Mike Rapoport
2020-10-13 14:43               ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-13 15:12                 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-10-13 15:21                   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-14  5:34                     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-10-13 15:28               ` Muchun Song
2020-10-16 15:38               ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2020-10-16 20:53                 ` Minchan Kim
2020-10-19 17:23                   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-12 21:46     ` Cong Wang
2020-10-13  3:29       ` Muchun Song

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