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From: Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <e.emanuelegiuseppe@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Jonathan Adams <jwadams@google.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] [not for merge] netstats: example use of stats_fs API
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 17:45:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99217496-929f-ed3b-8e9e-bbd26d06e234@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200526141605.GJ768009@lunn.ch>


Hi Andrew

> How do you atomically get and display a group of statistics?
> 
> If you look at how the netlink socket works, you will see code like:
> 
>                  do {
>                          start = u64_stats_fetch_begin_irq(&cpu_stats->syncp);
>                          rx_packets = cpu_stats->rx_packets;
>                          rx_bytes = cpu_stats->rx_bytes;
> 			....
>                  } while (u64_stats_fetch_retry_irq(&cpu_stats->syncp, start));
> 
> It will ensure that rx_packets and rx_bytes are consistent with each
> other. If the value of the sequence counter changes while inside the
> loop, the loop so repeated until it does not change.
> 
> In general, hardware counters in NICs are the same.  You tell it to
> take a snapshot of the statistics counters, and then read them all
> back, to give a consistent view across all the statistics.
> 
> I've not looked at this new code in detail, but it looks like you have
> one file per statistic, and assume each statistic is independent of
> every other statistic. This independence can limit how you use the
> values, particularly when debugging. The netlink interface we use does
> not have this limitation.

You're right, statistics are treated independently so what you describe 
is currently not supported.

In KVM the utilization is more qualitative, so there isn't such problem.
But as long as the interface is based on file access, the possibility of 
snapshotting might not be useful; however, it could still be considered 
to be added later together with the binary access.

Jonathan, how is your metricfs handling this case?

Thank you,
Emanuele


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-26 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26 11:03 [PATCH v3 0/7] Statsfs: a new ram-based file system for Linux kernel statistics Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] stats_fs API: create, add and remove stats_fs sources and values Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] documentation for stats_fs Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-06-04  0:23   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-04 15:34     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] kunit: tests for stats_fs API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-27 10:05   ` Alan Maguire
2020-05-27 13:26     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] stats_fs fs: virtual fs to show stats to the end-user Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] kvm_main: replace debugfs with stats_fs Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] [not for merge] kvm: example of stats_fs_value show function Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] [not for merge] netstats: example use of stats_fs API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-26 14:16   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-26 15:45     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito [this message]
2020-05-26 22:31 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Statsfs: a new ram-based file system for Linux kernel statistics Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-27 13:14   ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2020-05-27 13:33     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-27 15:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-27 20:23     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-27 21:07       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-27 21:27         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-27 21:44           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-27 22:21         ` David Ahern
2020-05-28  5:22           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-27 21:17 ` Andrew Lunn

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