From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
Linux-Audit Mailing List <linux-audit@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com, luto@kernel.org,
jlayton@redhat.com, carlos@redhat.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, simo@redhat.com,
Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
serge@hallyn.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 01/13] audit: add container id
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:46:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhTz-pr-iUVv-+R3ShwEKSHDsweDGuN7255HV7Cu3ZYPEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32d3e7a6-36f0-571a-bb91-67f746c7eafa@schaufler-ca.com>
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 8:41 PM, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
> On 4/18/2018 4:47 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 5:00 AM, Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Implement the proc fs write to set the audit container ID of a process,
>>> emitting an AUDIT_CONTAINER record to document the event.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
>>> index d258826..1b82191 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/sched.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
>>> @@ -796,6 +796,7 @@ struct task_struct {
>>> #ifdef CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL
>>> kuid_t loginuid;
>>> unsigned int sessionid;
>>> + u64 containerid;
>> This one line addition to the task_struct scares me the most of
>> anything in this patchset. Why? It's a field named "containerid" in
>> a perhaps one of the most widely used core kernel structures; the
>> possibilities for abuse are endless, and it's foolish to think we
>> would ever be able to adequately police this.
>
> If we can get the LSM infrastructure managed task blobs from
> module stacking in ahead of this we could create a trivial security
> module to manage this. It's not as if there aren't all sorts of
> interactions between security modules and the audit system already.
While yes, there are plenty of interactions between the two, it is
possible to use audit without the LSMs and I would like to preserve
that. Further, I don't want to entangle two very complicated code
changes or make the audit container ID effort dependent on LSM
stacking.
You're a good salesman Casey, but you're not that good ;)
--
paul moore
www.paul-moore.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-19 0:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-16 9:00 [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 00/13] audit: implement container id Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 01/13] audit: add " Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-28 18:39 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-03-29 9:01 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-29 13:03 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-03-30 5:06 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-18 23:47 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-19 0:41 ` Casey Schaufler
2018-04-19 0:46 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2018-04-19 1:15 ` Casey Schaufler
2018-04-21 14:34 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-23 23:15 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-24 2:02 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-24 19:01 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-25 0:40 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-26 22:47 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-06 16:51 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-17 21:00 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-17 21:56 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-18 13:56 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-18 15:21 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-18 15:38 ` Steve Grubb
2018-06-01 21:04 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-06-04 16:09 ` Steve Grubb
2018-06-04 20:23 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-06-04 20:30 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 02/13] audit: check children and threading before allowing containerid Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 0:11 ` Paul Moore
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 03/13] audit: log container info of syscalls Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-17 21:09 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-17 21:41 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-21 19:19 ` Steve Grubb
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 04/13] audit: add containerid filtering Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 0:24 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-19 12:17 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 05/13] audit: add containerid support for ptrace and signals Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 0:32 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-20 1:03 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-20 16:13 ` Paul Moore
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 06/13] audit: add support for non-syscall auxiliary records Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 0:39 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-20 1:23 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-20 16:21 ` Paul Moore
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 07/13] audit: add container aux record to watch/tree/mark Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 0:42 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-19 12:24 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 08/13] audit: add containerid support for tty_audit Richard Guy Briggs
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 09/13] audit: add containerid support for config/feature/user records Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 1:27 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-19 12:31 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 12:59 ` Paul Moore
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 10/13] audit: add containerid support for seccomp and anom_abend records Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 1:31 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-20 0:42 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-20 16:11 ` Paul Moore
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 11/13] audit: add support for containerid to network namespaces Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 1:46 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-20 20:02 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-20 20:22 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-20 20:42 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-21 12:10 ` Paul Moore
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 12/13] audit: NETFILTER_PKT: record each container ID associated with a netNS Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 2:10 ` Paul Moore
2018-04-19 12:45 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-19 13:13 ` Paul Moore
2018-03-16 9:00 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 13/13] debug audit: read container ID of a process Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-21 19:16 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-21 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-21 20:06 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-22 17:35 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-22 18:59 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-30 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH ghak32 V2 00/13] audit: implement container id Steve Grubb
2018-05-30 17:33 ` Richard Guy Briggs
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