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From: Heiher <r@hev.cc>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Roman Penyaev <rpenyaev@suse.de>
Cc: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] fs/epoll: fix the edge-triggered mode for nested epoll
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:56:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHirt9iZAj67FVnhd9ORp2Sk2xAXHDrJ2BANf4VrtM4dLWv9ww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHirt9j+DSR+uP-SBLHn0ika86uixSOPLXft+vVj5G5Ge0xr5w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 10:53 AM Heiher <r@hev.cc> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I created an epoll wakeup test project, listed some possible cases,
> and any other corner cases needs to be added?
>
> https://github.com/heiher/epoll-wakeup/blob/master/README.md
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:02 PM Heiher <r@hev.cc> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 8:02 PM Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/4/19 5:57 AM, Roman Penyaev wrote:
> > > > On 2019-09-03 23:08, Jason Baron wrote:
> > > >> On 9/2/19 11:36 AM, Roman Penyaev wrote:
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is indeed a bug. (quick side note: could you please remove efd[1]
> > > >>> from your test, because it is not related to the reproduction of a
> > > >>> current bug).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Your patch lacks a good description, what exactly you've fixed.  Let
> > > >>> me speak out loud and please correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding
> > > >>> of epoll internals has become a bit rusty: when epoll fds are nested
> > > >>> an attempt to harvest events (ep_scan_ready_list() call) produces a
> > > >>> second (repeated) event from an internal fd up to an external fd:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>      epoll_wait(efd[0], ...):
> > > >>>        ep_send_events():
> > > >>>           ep_scan_ready_list(depth=0):
> > > >>>             ep_send_events_proc():
> > > >>>                 ep_item_poll():
> > > >>>                   ep_scan_ready_list(depth=1):
> > > >>>                     ep_poll_safewake():
> > > >>>                       ep_poll_callback()
> > > >>>                         list_add_tail(&epi, &epi->rdllist);
> > > >>>                         ^^^^^^
> > > >>>                         repeated event
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In your patch you forbid wakeup for the cases, where depth != 0, i.e.
> > > >>> for all nested cases. That seems clear.  But what if we can go further
> > > >>> and remove the whole chunk, which seems excessive:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> @@ -885,26 +886,11 @@ static __poll_t ep_scan_ready_list(struct
> > > >>> eventpoll *ep,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -
> > > >>> -       if (!list_empty(&ep->rdllist)) {
> > > >>> -               /*
> > > >>> -                * Wake up (if active) both the eventpoll wait list and
> > > >>> -                * the ->poll() wait list (delayed after we release the
> > > >>> lock).
> > > >>> -                */
> > > >>> -               if (waitqueue_active(&ep->wq))
> > > >>> -                       wake_up(&ep->wq);
> > > >>> -               if (waitqueue_active(&ep->poll_wait))
> > > >>> -                       pwake++;
> > > >>> -       }
> > > >>>         write_unlock_irq(&ep->lock);
> > > >>>
> > > >>>         if (!ep_locked)
> > > >>>                 mutex_unlock(&ep->mtx);
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -       /* We have to call this outside the lock */
> > > >>> -       if (pwake)
> > > >>> -               ep_poll_safewake(&ep->poll_wait);
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I reason like that: by the time we've reached the point of scanning events
> > > >>> for readiness all wakeups from ep_poll_callback have been already fired and
> > > >>> new events have been already accounted in ready list (ep_poll_callback()
> > > >>> calls
> > > >>> the same ep_poll_safewake()). Here, frankly, I'm not 100% sure and probably
> > > >>> missing some corner cases.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thoughts?
> > > >>
> > > >> So the: 'wake_up(&ep->wq);' part, I think is about waking up other
> > > >> threads that may be in waiting in epoll_wait(). For example, there may
> > > >> be multiple threads doing epoll_wait() on the same epoll fd, and the
> > > >> logic above seems to say thread 1 may have processed say N events and
> > > >> now its going to to go off to work those, so let's wake up thread 2 now
> > > >> to handle the next chunk.
> > > >
> > > > Not quite. Thread which calls ep_scan_ready_list() processes all the
> > > > events, and while processing those, removes them one by one from the
> > > > ready list.  But if event mask is !0 and event belongs to
> > > > Level Triggered Mode descriptor (let's say default mode) it tails event
> > > > again back to the list (because we are in level mode, so event should
> > > > be there).  So at the end of this traversing loop ready list is likely
> > > > not empty, and if so, wake up again is called for nested epoll fds.
> > > > But, those nested epoll fds should get already all the notifications
> > > > from the main event callback ep_poll_callback(), regardless any thread
> > > > which traverses events.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose this logic exists for decades, when Davide (the author) was
> > > > reshuffling the code here and there.
> > > >
> > > > But I do not feel confidence to state that this extra wakeup is bogus,
> > > > I just have a gut feeling that it looks excessive.
> > >
> > > Note that I was talking about the wakeup done on ep->wq not ep->poll_wait.
> > > The path that I'm concerned about is let's say that there are N events
> > > queued on the ready list. A thread that was woken up in epoll_wait may
> > > decide to only process say N/2 of then. Then it will call wakeup on ep->wq
> > > and this will wakeup another thread to process the remaining N/2. Without
> > > the wakeup, the original thread isn't going to process the events until
> > > it finishes with the original N/2 and gets back to epoll_wait(). So I'm not
> > > sure how important that path is but I wanted to at least note the change
> > > here would impact that behavior.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > -Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >> So I think removing all that even for the
> > > >> depth 0 case is going to change some behavior here. So perhaps, it
> > > >> should be removed for all depths except for 0? And if so, it may be
> > > >> better to make 2 patches here to separate these changes.
> > > >>
> > > >> For the nested wakeups, I agree that the extra wakeups seem unnecessary
> > > >> and it may make sense to remove them for all depths. I don't think the
> > > >> nested epoll semantics are particularly well spelled out, and afaict,
> > > >> nested epoll() has behaved this way for quite some time. And the current
> > > >> behavior is not bad in the way that a missing wakeup or false negative
> > > >> would be.
> > > >
> > > > That's 100% true! For edge mode extra wake up is not a bug, not optimal
> > > > for userspace - yes, but that can't lead to any lost wakeups.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Roman
> > > >
> >
> > I tried to remove the whole chunk of code that Roman said, and it
> > seems that there
> > are no obvious problems with the two test programs below:

I recall this message, the test case 9/25/26 of epoll-wakeup (on
github) are failed while
the whole chunk are removed.

Apply the original patch, all tests passed.

> >
> > Test case 1:
> >            t0
> >             |
> >            e0
> >             |
> >            e1 (et)
> >             |
> >            s0 (lt)
> >
> > When s0 is readable, the thread 0 can only read once event from e0.
> >
> > #include <stdio.h>
> > #include <unistd.h>
> > #include <sys/epoll.h>
> > #include <sys/socket.h>
> >
> > int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > {
> >     int sfd[2];
> >     int efd[2];
> >     int nfds;
> >     struct epoll_event e;
> >
> >     if (socketpair(AF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0, sfd) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     efd[0] = epoll_create(1);
> >     if (efd[0] < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     efd[1] = epoll_create(1);
> >     if (efd[1] < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     e.events = EPOLLIN;
> >     if (epoll_ctl(efd[1], EPOLL_CTL_ADD, sfd[0], &e) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     e.events = EPOLLIN | EPOLLET;
> >     if (epoll_ctl(efd[0], EPOLL_CTL_ADD, efd[1], &e) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     if (write(sfd[1], "w", 1) != 1)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     nfds = epoll_wait(efd[0], &e, 1, 0);
> >     if (nfds != 1)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     nfds = epoll_wait(efd[0], &e, 1, 0);
> >     if (nfds != 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     nfds = epoll_wait(efd[1], &e, 1, 0);
> >     if (nfds != 1)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     nfds = epoll_wait(efd[1], &e, 1, 0);
> >     if (nfds != 1)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     close(efd[1]);
> >     close(efd[0]);
> >     close(sfd[0]);
> >     close(sfd[1]);
> >
> >     printf("PASS\n");
> >     return 0;
> >
> > out:
> >     printf("FAIL\n");
> >     return -1;
> > }
> >
> > Test case 2:
> >            t0  t1
> >             \   /
> >              e0
> >             /   \
> >     (et) e1   e2 (et)
> >            |      |
> >      (lt) s0    s2 (lt)
> >
> > When s0 and s2 are readable, both thread 0 and thread 1 can read an
> > event from e0.
> >
> > #include <stdio.h>
> > #include <unistd.h>
> > #include <pthread.h>
> > #include <sys/epoll.h>
> > #include <sys/socket.h>
> >
> > static int efd[3];
> > static int sfd[4];
> > static int count;
> >
> > static void *
> > thread_handler(void *data)
> > {
> >     struct epoll_event e;
> >
> >     if (epoll_wait(efd[0], &e, 1, -1) == 1)
> >         count++;
> >
> >     return NULL;
> > }
> >
> > static void *
> > emit_handler(void *data)
> > {
> >     usleep (100000);
> >
> >     write(sfd[1], "w", 1);
> >     write(sfd[3], "w", 1);
> >
> >     return NULL;
> > }
> >
> > int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > {
> >     struct epoll_event e;
> >     pthread_t tw, te;
> >
> >     if (socketpair(AF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0, &sfd[0]) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     if (socketpair(AF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0, &sfd[2]) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     efd[0] = epoll_create(1);
> >     if (efd[0] < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     efd[1] = epoll_create(1);
> >     if (efd[1] < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     efd[2] = epoll_create(1);
> >     if (efd[2] < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     e.events = EPOLLIN;
> >     if (epoll_ctl(efd[1], EPOLL_CTL_ADD, sfd[0], &e) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     e.events = EPOLLIN;
> >     if (epoll_ctl(efd[2], EPOLL_CTL_ADD, sfd[2], &e) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     e.events = EPOLLIN | EPOLLET;
> >     if (epoll_ctl(efd[0], EPOLL_CTL_ADD, efd[1], &e) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     e.events = EPOLLIN | EPOLLET;
> >     if (epoll_ctl(efd[0], EPOLL_CTL_ADD, efd[2], &e) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     if (pthread_create(&tw, NULL, thread_handler, NULL) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     if (pthread_create(&te, NULL, emit_handler, NULL) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     if (epoll_wait(efd[0], &e, 1, -1) == 1)
> >         count++;
> >
> >     if (pthread_join(tw, NULL) < 0)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     if (count != 2)
> >         goto out;
> >
> >     close(efd[0]);
> >     close(efd[1]);
> >     close(efd[2]);
> >     close(sfd[0]);
> >     close(sfd[1]);
> >     close(sfd[2]);
> >     close(sfd[3]);
> >
> >     printf ("PASS\n");
> >     return 0;
> >
> > out:
> >     printf("FAIL\n");
> >     return -1;
> > }
> >
> > t0: thread0
> > t1: thread1
> > e0: epoll0 (efd[0])
> > e1: epoll1 (efd[1])
> > e2: epoll2 (efd[2])
> > s0: socket0 (sfd[0])
> > s2: socket2 (sfd[2])
> >
> > Is it possible to prove that this modification is correct, or any
> > other corner cases are missing?
> >
> > --
> > Best regards!
> > Hev
> > https://hev.cc
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards!
> Hev
> https://hev.cc



-- 
Best regards!
Hev
https://hev.cc

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-05  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-02  5:20 [PATCH RESEND] fs/epoll: fix the edge-triggered mode for nested epoll hev
2019-09-02 15:36 ` Roman Penyaev
2019-09-03 21:08   ` Jason Baron
2019-09-04  9:57     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-09-04 12:02       ` Jason Baron
2019-09-04 14:02         ` Heiher
2019-09-05  2:53           ` Heiher
2019-09-05  9:56             ` Heiher [this message]
2019-09-05 17:27               ` Roman Penyaev
2019-09-05 17:44                 ` Jason Baron
2019-09-11  8:19                   ` Heiher
2019-09-12 21:36                     ` Jason Baron

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