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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtio-fs-list <virtio-fs@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Ioannis Angelakopoulos <iangelak@redhat.com>,
	jaggel@bu.edu, "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] virtiofs: Add new notification type FUSE_NOTIFY_LOCK
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 20:11:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegsguYZ3y5G6Rj4hoxEOn2ObnUVajTVhtyvm4ZSeFqGtFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YV8Ca/wP9HDWJITq@redhat.com>

On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 16:22, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 03:45:40PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 18:13, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 03:02:36PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 16:39, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Add a new notification type FUSE_NOTIFY_LOCK. This notification can be
> > > > > sent by file server to signifiy that a previous locking request has
> > > > > completed and actual caller should be woken up.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't this also be generic instead of lock specific?
> > > >
> > > > I.e. generic header  + original outarg.
> > >
> > > Hi Miklos,
> > >
> > > I am not sure I understand the idea. Can you please elaborate a bit more.
> > >
> > > IIUC, "fuse_out_header + original outarg"  is format for responding
> > > to regular fuse requests. If we use that it will become like responding
> > > to same request twice. First time we responded with ->error=1 so that
> > > caller can wait and second time we respond with actual outarg (if
> > > there is one depending on the type of request).
> > >
> > > IOW, this will become more like implementing blocking of request in
> > > client in a more generic manner.
> > >
> > > But outarg, depends on type of request (In case of locking there is
> > > none). And outarg memory is allocated by driver and filled by server.
> > > In case of notifications, driver is allocating the memory but it
> > > does not know what will come in notification and how much memory
> > > to allocate. So it relies on device telling it how much memory
> > > to allocate in general so that bunch of pre-defined notification
> > > types can fit in (fs->notify_buf_size).
> > >
> > > I modeled this on the same lines as other fuse notifications where
> > > server sends notifications with following format.
> > >
> > > fuse_out_header + <structure based on notification type>
> > >
> > > out_header->unique is 0 for notifications to differentiate notifications
> > > from request reply.
> > >
> > > out_header->error contains the code of actual notification being sent.
> > > ex. FUSE_NOTIFY_INVAL_INODE or FUSE_NOTIFY_LOCK or FUSE_NOTIFY_DELETE.
> > > Right now virtiofs supports only one notification type. But in future
> > > we can introduce more types (to support inotify stuff etc).
> > >
> > > In short, I modeled this on existing notion of fuse notifications
> > > (and not fuse reply). And given notifications are asynchronous,
> > > we don't know what were original outarg. In fact they might
> > > be generated not necessarily in response to a request. And that's
> > > why this notion of defining a type of notification (FUSE_NOTIFY_LOCK)
> > > and then let driver decide how to handle this notification.
> > >
> > > I might have completely misunderstood your suggestion. Please help
> > > me understand.
> >
> > Okay, so we are expecting this mechanism to be only used for blocking
> > locks.
>
> Yes, as of now it is only being used only for blocking locks. So there
> are two parts to it.
>
> A. For a blocking operation, server can reply with error=1, and that's
>    a signal to client to wait for a notification to arrive later. And
>    fuse client will not complete the request and instead will queue it
>    in one of the internal lists.
>
> B. Later server will send a fuse notification event (FUSE_NOTIFY_LOCK)
>    when it has acquired the lock. This notification will have unique
>    number of request for which this notification has been generated.
>    Fuse client will search for the request with expected unique number
>    in the list and complete the request.
>
> I think part A is generic in the sense it could be used for other
> kind of blocking requests as well down the line, where server is
> doing the blocking operation on behalf of client and will send
> notification later. Part B is very specific to blocking locks though.

I don't really get why B is specific to blocking locks. But anyway...
we are only implementing it for blocking locks for now.

>
> > That makes sense, but then locking ops should be setting a
> > flag indicating that this is locking op.  I.e. in fuse_setlk():
> >
> >     args.blocking_lock = true;
> >
> > And this should be verified when the reply with the positive error comes back.
>
> So this args.blocking_lock, goes to server as well? Or this is something
> internal to fuse client so that client can decide whether ->error=1 is
> a valid response or not. IOW, client is trying to do verification
> whether server should have generated ->error=1 or not for this specific
> request.

Right, it's for the client.

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-07 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-30 14:38 [PATCH 0/8] virtiofs: Notification queue and blocking posix locks Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 1/8] virtiofs: Disable interrupt requests properly Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 2/8] virtiofs: Fix a comment about fuse_dev allocation Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] virtiofs: Add an index to keep track of first request queue Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 4/8] virtiofs: Decouple queue index and queue type Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 5/8] virtiofs: Add a virtqueue for notifications Vivek Goyal
2021-10-06 12:46   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-06 12:54     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 6/8] virtiofs: Add a helper to end request and decrement inflight number Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 7/8] virtiofs: Add new notification type FUSE_NOTIFY_LOCK Vivek Goyal
2021-10-06 12:55   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-06 15:01     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-06 13:02   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-06 16:12     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-07 13:45       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 14:21         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-07 18:11           ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2021-10-07 18:32             ` Vivek Goyal
2021-10-07 18:46               ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-30 14:38 ` [PATCH 8/8] virtiofs: Handle reordering of reply and notification event Vivek Goyal
2021-09-30 15:43 ` [PATCH 0/8] virtiofs: Notification queue and blocking posix locks Vivek Goyal

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