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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman"
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	"Eric Windisch"
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	"Tejun Heo" <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [CFT][PATCH 0/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 23:26:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrU1yxcDfv4YV3wVpWMAdiOOsSUFOPUpFAN-mVA4M-OxdQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oalmg90j.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric W. Biederman
<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:30:45PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>
>>> The code is currently available at:
>>>
>>>    git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ebiederm/user-namespace.git for-testing
>>>
>>>    HEAD: a524faf520600968e58bbc732063fccf2fdf9199 mnt: Update fs_fully_visible to test for permanently empty directories
>>>
>>> The problem:  Mounting a new instance of proc of sysfs can allow things
>>> that a bind mount of those filesystems would not.
>>>
>>> That is the cases I am dealing with are:
>>>      unshare --user --net --mount ; mount -t sysfs ...
>>>      unshare --user --pid --mount ; mount -t proc ...
>>>
>>> The big change is that this set of changes enforces the preservation of
>>> locked mount flags, from the existing mount to the current mount.  Which
>>> means that if proc was mounted read-only the current current will allow
>>> a new instance of proc to be mounted read-write, and this set of changes
>>> enforces that proc remain read-only.
>>>
>>> The other gotcha is that the current code does not properly detect empty
>>> directories so to prevent things slipping through the cracks this set of
>>> changes annotates all mount points where nothing will be revealed if
>>> the filesystem mounted on top is removed.
>>>
>>> Enforcing the administrators policy can actually matter in the real
>>> world as has been shown by the recent docker issue.
>>>
>>> With this patchset I have two concerns:
>>> - The enforcement of mount flag preservation on proc and sysfs may break
>>>   things.  (I am especially worried about the implicit adding of nodev).
>>
>> What do you mean by this?  What got added?
>
> In a user namespace mounting a filesystem implicitly adds nodev.
>
> When I started enforcing not clearing bits that root had set on a
> filesystem in mount -o remount the implicit nodev wound up being
> an issue that broke userspace for no good reason.  The fix was
> to implicitly add nodev in remount as well.
>
> Taking a second look at this nodev is implicitly added before the
> fs_fully_visible check so even for applications that are know how the
> original proc was mounted (and don't see an implicit nodev) and that
> don't add nodev (because they ''know'' the mount flags) this change
> should not be a problem.  Hooray!  One less scary thing.

Can we please just get rid of this implicit nodev thing once and for all?  If it
breaks some really weird /proc use case, then I think the right fix is to
stop enforcing the nodev lock for the proc fully visible check.  After
all, /proc doesn't contain useful device nodes anyway.

Other than that, the code here looks okay to me on brief inspection.

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-15  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-14 17:30 [CFT][PATCH 0/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:33 ` [CFT][PATCH 04/10] fs: Add helper functions for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:33 ` [CFT][PATCH 05/10] sysctl: Allow creating " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <87pp63jcca.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 17:31   ` [CFT][PATCH 01/10] mnt: Refactor the logic for mounting sysfs and proc in a user namespace Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:32   ` [CFT][PATCH 02/10] mnt: Modify fs_fully_visible to deal with mount attributes Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:32   ` [CFT][PATCH 03/10] vfs: Ignore unlocked mounts in fs_fully_visible Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:34   ` [CFT][PATCH 06/10] proc: Allow creating permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:34   ` [CFT][PATCH 07/10] kernfs: Add support for always " Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:35   ` [CFT][PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Add support for permanently " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87fv6zhxkp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 20:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]         ` <20150514203131.GB16416-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 21:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:36   ` [CFT][PATCH 09/10] sysfs: Create mountpoints with sysfs_create_empty_dir Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <878ucrhxi9.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-11 18:44       ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-11 18:57         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-11 19:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrXE=fKa3XkEEo6y2=ZNtsuBfX=kaoyDwiP0C2BwqKJWjw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  0:58               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <87mvxxcogp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 20:00                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-12 20:27                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                       ` <87r3n82qxd.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 21:05                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <877fp1hcuj.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-11 20:11             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <CAOS58YOHU8SFv4UXeBRr4t88UU=DXQCPg2HU_dMBmgM7WBB1zQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  0:37                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                   ` <87fv3pe3zn.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  3:58                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                       ` <87a8txb1k8.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  4:04                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                           ` <871tf9b19v.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 19:15                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                               ` <20150812191515.GA4496-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 20:07                                 ` [PATCH] fs: Set the size of empty dirs to 0 Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                   ` <87mvxw46fc.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 20:18                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-14 17:37   ` [CFT][PATCH 10/10] mnt: Update fs_fully_visible to test for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 20:29 ` [CFT][PATCH 0/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-14 21:10   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87oalmg90j.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-15  6:26       ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrU1yxcDfv4YV3wVpWMAdiOOsSUFOPUpFAN-mVA4M-OxdQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-15  6:55           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:05 ` [CFT][PATCH 00/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:06   ` [CFT][PATCH 02/10] mnt: Modify fs_fully_visible to deal with mount attributes Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]   ` <87siaxuvik.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-16  2:06     ` [CFT][PATCH 01/10] mnt: Refactor the logic for mounting sysfs and proc in a user namespace Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:07     ` [CFT][PATCH 03/10] vfs: Ignore unlocked mounts in fs_fully_visible Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:07     ` [CFT][PATCH 04/10] fs: Add helper functions for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:08     ` [CFT][PATCH 05/10] sysctl: Allow creating permanently empty directories that serve as mountpoints Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:08     ` [CFT][PATCH 06/10] proc: Allow creating permanently empty directories that serve as mount points Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:09     ` [CFT][PATCH 07/10] kernfs: Add support for always empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:09     ` [CFT][PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Add support for permanently empty directories to serve as mount points Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-18 13:14       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-16  2:10     ` [CFT][PATCH 09/10] sysfs: Create mountpoints with sysfs_create_mount_point Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-18 13:14       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-16  2:11     ` [CFT][PATCH 10/10] mnt: Update fs_fully_visible to test for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-22 17:39     ` [CFT][PATCH 00/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <87wq004im1.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 18:59         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]           ` <CALCETrUhXBR5WQ6gXr9KzGc4=7tph7kzopY29Hug4g+FhOzEKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 20:41             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 14:08           ` Serge Hallyn
2015-05-28 15:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 17:33               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrXXax28s9kMTQ-zDx0MttQWG4rg2y-oz3bSGiumSL=3sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 18:20                   ` Kenton Varda
     [not found]                     ` <CAOP=4wid+N_80iyPpiVMN96_fuHZZRGtYQ6AOPn-HFBj2H6Vgg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 19:14                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <87fv6gikfn.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 20:12                           ` Kenton Varda
2015-05-28 20:47                             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-28 21:07                               ` Kenton Varda
     [not found]                                 ` <CAOP=4wiAA4SqvMn_rQJHOjg6M-75bi_G9Fx8ENgVnYdkT5WVQA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:12                                   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-29  0:30                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-29  0:35                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrXO21Y7PR=pKqaqJb1YZArNyjAv7Z-J44O53FcfLM_0Tw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29  4:36                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <87fv6g80g7.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29  4:54                                 ` Kenton Varda
2015-05-29 17:49                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-03 21:13                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87k2vkebri.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 21:15                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 11/10] mnt: Avoid unnecessary regressions in fs_fully_visible Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <87eglseboh.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  4:35                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 11/10] mnt: Avoid unnecessary regressions in fs_fully_visible (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                             ` <874mmodral.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  5:20                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-05  0:46                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 11/10] mnt: Avoid unnecessary regressions in fs_fully_visible Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                             ` <CALCETrWwtFaiaYGLoq4EPkrgcq9nEA2GseVfP3iBkbYZ8NfGPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 19:14                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-04  5:19                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 00/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts (take 2) Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-04  6:27                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                           ` <87h9qo6la9.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  7:34                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-16 12:23                                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-28 21:04               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20150528210438.GA14849-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:42                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 21:52                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-05-28 19:36             ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]               ` <55676E32.3050006-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 19:57                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 20:30                   ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                     ` <55677AEF.1090809-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:32                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <87iobcfkwx.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:46                           ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                             ` <55678CCA.80807-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 12:30                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-29  9:30                           ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                             ` <556831CF.9040600-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29 17:41                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-06 18:56                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <87mw0c1x8p.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 12:31                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]                                   ` <20150616123148.GB18689-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 12:46                                     ` Richard Weinberger

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