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From: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
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	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/11] perf: Add breakpoint information to siginfo on SIGTRAP
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 16:17:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANpmjNNcYSGCC7587YzMzX1UpDvTA8ewAJRsKFdzQRdmWEO7Yw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210325141820.GA1456211@gmail.com>

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 15:18, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 3:05 PM Marco Elver <elver@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 15:01, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One last try, I'll leave it alone now, I promise :-)
> > >
> > > This looks like it does what you suggested, thanks! :-)
> > >
> > > I'll still need to think about it, because of the potential problem
> > > with modify-signal-races and what the user's synchronization story
> > > would look like then.
> >
> > I agree that this looks inherently racy. The attr can't be allocated
> > on stack, user synchronization may be tricky and expensive. The API
> > may provoke bugs and some users may not even realize the race problem.
>
> Yeah, so why cannot we allocate enough space from the signal handler
> user-space stack and put the attr there, and point to it from
> sig_info?
>
> The idea would be to create a stable, per-signal snapshot of whatever
> the perf_attr state is at the moment the event happens and the signal
> is generated - which is roughly what user-space wants, right?

I certainly couldn't say how feasible this is. Is there infrastructure
in place to do this? Or do we have to introduce support for stashing
things on the signal stack?

From what we can tell, the most flexible option though appears to be
just some user settable opaque data in perf_event_attr, that is copied
to siginfo. It'd allow user space to store a pointer or a hash/key, or
just encode the relevant information it wants; but could also go
further, and add information beyond perf_event_attr, such as things
like a signal receiver filter (e.g. task ID or set of threads which
should process the signal etc.).

So if there's no strong objection to the additional field in
perf_event_attr, I think it'll give us the simplest and most flexible
option.

Thanks,
-- Marco

> Thanks,
>
>         Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-25 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-24 11:24 [PATCH v3 00/11] Add support for synchronous signals on perf events Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] perf: Rework perf_event_exit_event() Marco Elver
2021-03-25 10:17   ` Marco Elver
2021-03-25 16:17     ` Marco Elver
2021-03-25 19:10       ` Marco Elver
2021-03-29 11:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 11:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] perf: Apply PERF_EVENT_IOC_MODIFY_ATTRIBUTES to children Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] perf: Support only inheriting events if cloned with CLONE_THREAD Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] perf: Add support for event removal on exec Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] signal: Introduce TRAP_PERF si_code and si_perf to siginfo Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] perf: Add support for SIGTRAP on perf events Marco Elver
2021-03-25  8:14   ` Marco Elver
2021-03-29 12:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-29 14:27       ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-03-29 14:32         ` Marco Elver
2021-03-30  7:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-29 18:22         ` Marco Elver
2021-03-29 18:33           ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-03-31 12:32       ` Marco Elver
2021-03-31 14:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-31 16:50           ` Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] perf: Add breakpoint information to siginfo on SIGTRAP Marco Elver
2021-03-24 12:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 13:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 13:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 13:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 14:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 14:05             ` Marco Elver
2021-03-24 14:12               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-24 14:15                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-03-25  7:00                   ` Marco Elver
2021-03-25 14:18                 ` Ingo Molnar
2021-03-25 15:17                   ` Marco Elver [this message]
2021-03-25 15:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2021-03-24 13:47         ` Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] selftests/perf_events: Add kselftest for process-wide sigtrap handling Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] selftests/perf_events: Add kselftest for remove_on_exec Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] tools headers uapi: Sync tools/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h Marco Elver
2021-03-24 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] perf test: Add basic stress test for sigtrap handling Marco Elver

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