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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Bobrowski <mbobrowski@mbobrowski.org>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] fanotify.7, fanotify_init.2, fanotify_mark.2: Document FAN_REPORT_FID and directory modification events
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 17:51:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxh60HohaNOY4d3pcoC8iYgwWbGuDLBmKpmvZjSFYdN4fA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190313150755.GF9108@quack2.suse.cz>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the manpage updates! Some small comments below.
>
> On Tue 12-03-19 13:48:29, Matthew Bobrowski wrote:
> > +.TP
> > +.B FAN_MOVED_FROM
> > +Create an event when a marked file or directory is moved from the current
> > +location.
> > +.TP
> > +.B FAN_MOVED_TO
> > +Create an event when a marked file or directory is moved to a new
> > +location.
>
> For these two events (like other directory events), marked thing is
> actually again the parent directory - i.e., these events trigger is
> something is moved to / from marked directory. So I think it would be
> clearer and use the same language like e.g. for FAN_CREATE and speak about
> marked parent directory.
>
> >  Without this flag, only events for files are created.
> > +The
> > +.BR FAN_ONDIR
> > +flag is reported in an event mask only if the
> > +.I fanotify_fd
> > +file descriptor has been initialized with the flag
> > +.BR FAN_REPORT_FID .
> > +In the context of directory entry events, such as
> > +.BR FAN_CREATE ,
> > +.BR FAN_DELETE
> > +and
> > +.BR FAN_MOVE
>
> Maybe too early to speak about FAN_MOVE here as it's not defined yet? I'd
> rather explicitely use FAN_MOVE_FROM and FAN_MOVE_TO here.
>
> > diff --git a/man7/fanotify.7 b/man7/fanotify.7
> > index 74246063e..039764d30 100644
> > --- a/man7/fanotify.7
> > +++ b/man7/fanotify.7
> ...
> > +.B FAN_ATTRIB
> > +A file or directory metadata was changed.
> > +.TP
> > +.B FAN_CREATE
> > +A child file or directory was created in a watched parent.
> > +.TP
> > +.B FAN_DELETE
> > +A child file or directory was deleted in a watched parent.
> > +.TP
> > +.B FAN_DELETE_SELF
> > +A watched file or directory was deleted.
> > +.TP
> > +.B FAN_MOVED_FROM
> > +A watched file or directory was moved from the current location.
> > +.TP
> > +.B FAN_MOVED_TO
> > +A watched file or directory was moved to a new location.
>
> The same comment here about parent directory being actually marked.
>
> > +.TP
> > +.I hdr
> > +This is a structure of type
> > +.IR fanotify_event_info_header .
> > +It is a generic header that contains information used to describe the type
> > +of event.
>
> "type of event" seems a bit unfortunate wording here since I'd expect that
> to be FAN_CREATE or whatever. I'd rather choose something like "used to
> describe additional information attached to the event".
>
> > +For example, when an fanotify file descriptor is created using
> > +.B FAN_REPORT_FID
> > +the
> > +.I info_type
> > +field of this header is set to
> > +.BR FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_FID .
> > +Event listeners can use this field to check that events of the correct
> > +type are being received.
>
> I think here you should also speak about the 'len' field in the header
> which can be used to skip additional information that is not understood /
> uninteresting for the receiver of the event.
>

Well, one thing I think we should avoid is to overload reader with
how those fields would be used in future expansion on the API.

There is a good example in this very man page:
event_len
      ...
      In the current implementation, the value of event_len is always
      FAN_EVENT_METADATA_LEN.  However, the API is designed to
      allow variable-length structures to be returned in the future.

So I think 'len' field should get a similar treatment -
In the current implementation, the value of len is always
event_len -  FAN_EVENT_METADATA_LEN. However, the API...

And now we see that the wording of event_len should
be fixed with this patch, because the future is here ;-)

Thanks,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-13 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-12  2:48 [RFC PATCH 0/1] fanotify.7, fanotify_init.2, fanotify_mark.2: Document FAN_REPORT_FID and Directory entry events Matthew Bobrowski
2019-03-12  2:48 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] fanotify.7, fanotify_init.2, fanotify_mark.2: Document FAN_REPORT_FID and directory modification events Matthew Bobrowski
2019-03-13 15:07   ` Jan Kara
2019-03-13 15:51     ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2019-03-16 12:35     ` Matthew Bobrowski
2019-03-18 10:01       ` Jan Kara
2019-03-18 11:05         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-19 12:06           ` Matthew Bobrowski

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