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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2] copy_file_range.2: Update cross-filesystem support for 5.12
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:00:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxiGaMxUfFFo=GmH60-8SA6Lc0k_Op7jfneKFx1NmF=BsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210227134922.5706-1-alx.manpages@gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 3:59 PM Alejandro Colomar
<alx.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Linux 5.12 fixes a regression.
>
> Cross-filesystem copies (introduced in 5.3) were buggy.
>
> Move the statements documenting cross-fs to BUGS.
> Kernels 5.3..5.11 should be patched soon.
>
> State version information for some errors related to this.
>
> Reported-by: Luis Henriques <lhenriques@suse.de>
> Reported-by: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
> Related: <https://lwn.net/Articles/846403/>
> Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> Cc: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
> Cc: Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>
> Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
> Cc: Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>
> Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
> Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
> Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
> Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> Cc: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> Cc: Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>
> Cc: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>
> Cc: Luis Lozano <llozano@chromium.org>
> Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
> Cc: Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>
> Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
> Cc: ceph-devel <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: CIFS <linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: samba-technical <samba-technical@lists.samba.org>
> Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Walter Harms <wharms@bfs.de>
> Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
> ---
>
> Hi all,
>
> Please check that this is correct.
> I wrote it as I understood copy_file_range() from the LWN article,
> and the conversation on this thread,
> but maybe someone with more experience on this syscall find bugs in my patch.
>
> When kernels 5.3..5.11 fix this, some info could be compacted a bit more,
> and maybe the BUGS section could be removed.
>
> Also, I'd like to know which filesystems support cross-fs, and since when.
>
> Amir, you said that it was only cifs and nfs (since when? 5.3? 5.12?).
>
> Also, I'm a bit surprised that <5.3 could fail with EOPNOTSUPP
> and it wasn't documented.  Is that for sure, Amir?

No. You are right. EOPNOTSUPP is new.
Kernel always fell back to sendfile(2) if the filesystem did not support
copy_file_range().

>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
> ---
>  man2/copy_file_range.2 | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++---------
>  1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/man2/copy_file_range.2 b/man2/copy_file_range.2
> index 611a39b80..93f54889d 100644
> --- a/man2/copy_file_range.2
> +++ b/man2/copy_file_range.2
> @@ -169,6 +169,9 @@ Out of memory.
>  .B ENOSPC
>  There is not enough space on the target filesystem to complete the copy.
>  .TP
> +.BR EOPNOTSUPP " (before Linux 5.3; or since Linux 5.12)"
> +The filesystem does not support this operation.
> +.TP

so not before 5.3

>  .B EOVERFLOW
>  The requested source or destination range is too large to represent in the
>  specified data types.
> @@ -184,10 +187,17 @@ or
>  .I fd_out
>  refers to an active swap file.
>  .TP
> -.B EXDEV
> +.BR EXDEV " (before Linux 5.3)"
>  The files referred to by
>  .IR fd_in " and " fd_out
> -are not on the same mounted filesystem (pre Linux 5.3).
> +are not on the same filesystem.
> +.TP
> +.BR EXDEV " (or since Linux 5.12)"
> +The files referred to by
> +.IR fd_in " and " fd_out
> +are not on the same filesystem,
> +and the source and target filesystems are not of the same type,
> +or do not support cross-filesystem copy.

ok.

>  .SH VERSIONS
>  The
>  .BR copy_file_range ()
> @@ -195,13 +205,10 @@ system call first appeared in Linux 4.5, but glibc 2.27 provides a user-space
>  emulation when it is not available.
>  .\" https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;f=posix/unistd.h;h=bad7a0c81f501fbbcc79af9eaa4b8254441c4a1f
>  .PP
> -A major rework of the kernel implementation occurred in 5.3.
> -Areas of the API that weren't clearly defined were clarified and the API bounds
> -are much more strictly checked than on earlier kernels.
> -Applications should target the behaviour and requirements of 5.3 kernels.
> -.PP

That information is useful. Why remove it?
FYI, the LTP tests written to velidate the copy_file_range() API are not running
on kernel < 5.3 at all.

> -First support for cross-filesystem copies was introduced in Linux 5.3.
> -Older kernels will return -EXDEV when cross-filesystem copies are attempted.
> +Since 5.12,
> +cross-filesystem copies can be achieved
> +when both filesystems are of the same type,
> +and that filesystem implements support for it.
>  .SH CONFORMING TO
>  The
>  .BR copy_file_range ()
> @@ -226,6 +233,10 @@ gives filesystems an opportunity to implement "copy acceleration" techniques,
>  such as the use of reflinks (i.e., two or more inodes that share
>  pointers to the same copy-on-write disk blocks)
>  or server-side-copy (in the case of NFS).
> +.SH BUGS
> +In Linux kernels 5.3 to 5.11, cross-filesystem copies were supported.

I think it is a bit confusing to say "were supported", because how come
support went away from kernel 5.12? maybe something along the lines
that kernel implementation of copy was used if there was no filesystem
support for the operation...

> +However, on some virtual filesystems, the call failed to copy,
> +eventhough it may have reported success.
>  .SH EXAMPLES
>  .EX
>  #define _GNU_SOURCE
> --
> 2.30.1.721.g45526154a5
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-27 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-12  4:43 [PATCH 0/6] Add generated flag to filesystem struct to block copy_file_range Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-12  4:44 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs: Add flag to file_system_type to indicate content is generated Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-12  7:46   ` Greg KH
2021-02-12  8:20     ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-12  8:37       ` Greg KH
2021-02-12 15:33         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-02-12 15:45           ` Greg KH
2021-02-12 15:59             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-02-12 16:28               ` Greg KH
2021-02-12 20:22                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-02-12 23:03             ` Dave Chinner
2021-02-12 23:07               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-02-12 23:27                 ` Dave Chinner
2021-02-12 23:54                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-02-15  0:38                     ` Dave Chinner
2021-02-15  1:12                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-02-15  1:25                         ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-15  5:56                           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-15  8:30                           ` Greg KH
2021-02-12  8:22     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-12  8:39       ` Greg KH
2021-02-12 12:05         ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-12 12:18           ` Greg KH
2021-02-12 12:41             ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-12 14:11               ` Greg KH
2021-02-12 15:01                 ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-15  6:12               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-15 10:39                 ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-15 12:22                   ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-15 14:23                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-15 14:51                       ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-15 15:43                       ` [PATCH v2] vfs: prevent copy_file_range to copy across devices Luis Henriques
2021-02-15 16:02                         ` Trond Myklebust
2021-02-16  0:25                           ` Steve French
2021-02-15 16:34                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-15 16:53                           ` Trond Myklebust
2021-02-15 17:24                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-15 18:57                               ` Trond Myklebust
2021-02-15 19:43                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 11:17                                   ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 11:28                                     ` gregkh
2021-02-16 12:01                                       ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 12:08                                         ` Greg KH
2021-02-16 13:51                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 16:42                                       ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 17:44                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 18:55                                           ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 19:20                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 19:27                                               ` Anna Schumaker
2021-02-16 19:31                                                 ` Steve French
2021-02-16 19:40                                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 21:15                                                     ` Steve French
2021-02-17  8:08                                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-17 17:26                                                         ` [PATCH v3] vfs: fix copy_file_range regression in cross-fs copies Luis Henriques
2021-02-17 20:47                                                           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18  0:56                                                           ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-18  5:32                                                           ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-18  6:47                                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 16:28                                                               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-18  7:43                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18  0:50                                                         ` [PATCH v2] vfs: prevent copy_file_range to copy across devices Andreas Dilger
2021-02-18  7:34                                                           ` gregkh
2021-02-16 18:54                                       ` Andreas Dilger
2021-02-17  4:45                         ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-18  7:42                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18  9:10                           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 10:29                             ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 12:15                               ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 12:49                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 14:36                                   ` [PATCH v4] vfs: fix copy_file_range regression in cross-fs copies Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 14:58                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 15:17                                       ` [PATCH v5] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 15:53                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 16:35                                           ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 17:18                                             ` [PATCH v6] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-19 21:18                                               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-19 21:52                                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-21 19:58                                                 ` [PATCH v7] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-22  3:00                                                   ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-22 10:24                                                   ` [PATCH v8] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-22 10:46                                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-22 16:25                                                     ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 10:32                                                       ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-23 15:28                                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-23 15:29                                                         ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 16:02                                                           ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 16:47                                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-23 16:57                                                               ` dai.ngo
     [not found]                                                                 ` <e3eed18b-fc7e-e687-608b-7f662017329c@oracle.com>
2021-02-23 17:33                                                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-24  0:13                                                                     ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 17:56                                                                 ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-23 17:13                                                             ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-24  1:00                                                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-24 10:23                                                       ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-24 10:44                                                         ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-04-09  5:23                                                           ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-04-09 13:39                                                             ` Luis Henriques
2021-04-09 13:50                                                               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-23  4:40                                                                 ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-05-03  8:54                                                                   ` Luis Henriques
2021-05-10  4:59                                                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-10  9:10                                                                       ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-24 14:23                                                     ` [PATCH] copy_file_range.2: Kernel v5.12 updates Luis Henriques
2021-02-24 16:10                                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-25 10:21                                                         ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-26 10:13                                                           ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-26 10:34                                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-26 11:15                                                               ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-26 13:59                                                                 ` Jeff Layton
2021-02-26 21:26                                                                   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-26 22:18                                                         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-27  5:41                                                           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-27 12:20                                                             ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-27 13:49                                                               ` [RFC v2] copy_file_range.2: Update cross-filesystem support for 5.12 Alejandro Colomar
2021-02-27 16:00                                                                 ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2021-02-27 23:08                                                             ` [PATCH] copy_file_range.2: Kernel v5.12 updates Steve French
2021-02-28  7:35                                                               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-28 22:25                                                                 ` Steve French
2021-03-01  6:18                                                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-01 14:41                                                       ` [RFC v3] copy_file_range.2: Update cross-filesystem support for 5.12 Alejandro Colomar
2021-03-01 14:58                                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-04  9:38                                                       ` [RFC v4] " Alejandro Colomar
2021-03-04 17:13                                                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-04 18:24                                                           ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-03-04 23:50                                                             ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-02-24  7:15                                     ` [PATCH v4] vfs: fix copy_file_range regression in cross-fs copies Amir Goldstein
2021-02-24  8:30                                       ` Petr Vorel
2021-02-18 20:41                             ` [PATCH v2] vfs: prevent copy_file_range to copy across devices Steve French
2021-02-12 23:15       ` [PATCH 1/6] fs: Add flag to file_system_type to indicate content is generated Dave Chinner
2021-02-12  7:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-12  4:44 ` [PATCH 2/6] proc: Add FS_GENERATED_CONTENT to filesystem flags Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-12  4:44 ` [PATCH 6/6] vfs: Disallow copy_file_range on generated file systems Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-12  4:53   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-02-12  4:59     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-02-12  5:24       ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-14 23:09 ` [PATCH 0/6] Add generated flag to filesystem struct to block copy_file_range Al Viro

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