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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, "Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>, "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, "X86 ML" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Ross Zwisler" <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Naoya Horiguchi" <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	"Souptick Joarder" <jrdr.linux@gmail.com>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] mm: Teach memory_failure() about ZONE_DEVICE pages
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 06:44:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4hA2Na7wyuyLZSWG5s_4+pEv6aMApk23d2iO1vhFx92XQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180606073910.GB32433@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue 05-06-18 07:33:17, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > On Mon 04-06-18 07:31:25, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> I'm trying to solve this real world problem when real poison is
>> >> consumed through a dax mapping:
>> >>
>> >>         mce: Uncorrected hardware memory error in user-access at af34214200
>> >>         {1}[Hardware Error]: It has been corrected by h/w and requires
>> >> no further action
>> >>         mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged
>> >>         {1}[Hardware Error]: event severity: corrected
>> >>         Memory failure: 0xaf34214: reserved kernel page still
>> >> referenced by 1 users
>> >>         [..]
>> >>         Memory failure: 0xaf34214: recovery action for reserved kernel
>> >> page: Failed
>> >>         mce: Memory error not recovered
>> >>
>> >> ...i.e. currently all poison consumed through dax mappings is
>> >> needlessly system fatal.
>> >
>> > Thanks. That should be a part of the changelog.
>>
>> ...added for v3:
>> https://lists.01.org/pipermail/linux-nvdimm/2018-June/016153.html
>>
>> > It would be great to
>> > describe why this cannot be simply handled by hwpoison code without any
>> > ZONE_DEVICE specific hacks? The error is recoverable so why does
>> > hwpoison code even care?
>> >
>>
>> Up until we started testing hardware poison recovery for persistent
>> memory I assumed that the kernel did not need any new enabling to get
>> basic support for recovering userspace consumed poison.
>>
>> However, the recovery code has a dedicated path for many different
>> page states (see: action_page_types). Without any changes it
>> incorrectly assumes that a dax mapped page is a page cache page
>> undergoing dma, or some other pinned operation. It also assumes that
>> the page must be offlined which is not correct / possible for dax
>> mapped pages. There is a possibility to repair poison to dax mapped
>> persistent memory pages, and the pages can't otherwise be offlined
>> because they 1:1 correspond with a physical storage block, i.e.
>> offlining pmem would be equivalent to punching a hole in the physical
>> address space.
>>
>> There's also the entanglement of device-dax which guarantees a given
>> mapping size (4K, 2M, 1G). This requires determining the size of the
>> mapping encompassing a given pfn to know how much to unmap. Since dax
>> mapped pfns don't come from the page allocator we need to read the
>> page size from the page tables, not compound_order(page).
>
> OK, but my question is still. Do we really want to do more on top of the
> existing code and add even more special casing or it is time to rethink
> the whole hwpoison design?

Well, there's the immediate problem that the current implementation is
broken for dax and then the longer term problem that the current
design appears to be too literal with a lot of custom marshaling.

At least for dax in the long term we want to offer an alternative
error handling model and get the filesystem much more involved. That
filesystem redesign work has been waiting for the reverse-block-map
effort to settle in xfs. However, that's more custom work for dax and
not a redesign that helps the core-mm more generically.

I think the unmap and SIGBUS portion of poison handling is relatively
straightforward. It's the handling of the page HWPoison page flag that
seems a bit ad hoc. The current implementation certainly was not
prepared for the concept that memory can be repaired. set_mce_nospec()
is a step in the direction of generic memory error handling.

Thoughts on other pain points in the design that are on your mind, Michal?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-06 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-03  5:22 [PATCH v2 00/11] mm: Teach memory_failure() about ZONE_DEVICE pages Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:22 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] device-dax: Convert to vmf_insert_mixed and vm_fault_t Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:22 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] device-dax: Cleanup vm_fault de-reference chains Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:22 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] device-dax: Enable page_mapping() Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] device-dax: Set page->index Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] filesystem-dax: " Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mm, madvise_inject_error: Let memory_failure() optionally take a page reference Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] x86, memory_failure: Introduce {set, clear}_mce_nospec() Dan Williams
2018-06-04 17:08   ` Luck, Tony
2018-06-04 17:39     ` Dan Williams
2018-06-04 18:08       ` Luck, Tony
2018-06-04 18:35         ` Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] mm, memory_failure: Pass page size to kill_proc() Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] mm, memory_failure: Fix page->mapping assumptions relative to the page lock Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] mm, memory_failure: Teach memory_failure() about dev_pagemap pages Dan Williams
2018-06-03  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] libnvdimm, pmem: Restore page attributes when clearing errors Dan Williams
2018-06-04 12:40 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] mm: Teach memory_failure() about ZONE_DEVICE pages Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 14:31   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-05 14:11     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-05 14:33       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-06  7:39         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-06 13:44           ` Dan Williams [this message]
2018-06-07 14:37             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-07 16:52               ` Dan Williams
2018-06-11  7:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-11 14:44                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-11 14:56                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-11 15:19                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-11 17:35                         ` Andi Kleen
2018-06-12  1:50                         ` Naoya Horiguchi
2018-06-12  1:58                           ` Dan Williams
2018-06-12  4:04                           ` Jane Chu

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