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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 13:09:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YMzTSteDJkZkVziO@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210616183043.cdd36c5ca6bee8614c609a90@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 06:30:43PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 00:54:15 -0400 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:20:08AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 02:50:09PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 04:26:40PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 05:19:04PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > > > > @@ -1123,6 +1125,9 @@ static int __remove_mapping(struct address_space *mapping, struct page *page,
> > > > > >  			shadow = workingset_eviction(page, target_memcg);
> > > > > >  		__delete_from_page_cache(page, shadow);
> > > > > >  		xa_unlock_irq(&mapping->i_pages);
> > > > > > +		if (mapping_shrinkable(mapping))
> > > > > > +			inode_add_lru(mapping->host);
> > > > > > +		spin_unlock(&mapping->host->i_lock);
> > > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > No. Inode locks have absolutely no place serialising core vmscan
> > > > > algorithms.
> > > > 
> > > > What if, and hear me out on this one, core vmscan algorithms change
> > > > the state of the inode?
> > > 
> > > Then the core vmscan algorithm has a layering violation.
> > 
> > You're just playing a word game here.
> 
> Don't think so.  David is quite correct in saying that vmscan shouldn't
> mess with inode state unless it's via address_space_operations?

It seemed to me the complaint was more about vmscan propagating this
state into the inode in general - effecting fs inode acquisitions and
LRU manipulations from the page reclaim callstack - regardless of
whether they are open-coded or indirect through API functions?

Since I mentioned better encapsulation but received no response...

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-18 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-14 21:19 [PATCH 1/4] mm: remove irqsave/restore locking from contexts with irqs enabled Johannes Weiner
2021-06-14 21:19 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: drop_caches: fix skipping over shadow cache inodes Johannes Weiner
2021-06-14 22:31   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-06-14 21:19 ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: inode: count invalidated shadow pages in pginodesteal Johannes Weiner
2021-06-14 21:19 ` [PATCH 4/4] vfs: keep inodes with page cache off the inode shrinker LRU Johannes Weiner
2021-06-14 21:59   ` Andrew Morton
2021-06-14 22:41     ` Johannes Weiner
2021-06-15  6:26   ` Dave Chinner
2021-06-15 18:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2021-06-16  1:20       ` Dave Chinner
2021-06-16  4:54         ` Johannes Weiner
2021-06-17  0:49           ` Dave Chinner
2021-06-18 16:45             ` Johannes Weiner
2021-06-28 18:58               ` Johannes Weiner
2021-06-17  1:30           ` Andrew Morton
2021-06-18 17:09             ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2021-06-28 17:12         ` Johannes Weiner

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