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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/40] Memory allocation profiling
Date: Sun, 7 May 2023 12:27:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFd9BiSorMldWiff@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpEkV_+pAjxyEpMqY+x7buZhSpj5qDF6KubsS=ObrQKUZg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 04-05-23 08:08:13, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 2:07 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
[...]
> > e.g. is it really interesting to know that there is a likely memory
> > leak in seq_file proper doing and allocation? No as it is the specific
> > implementation using seq_file that is leaking most likely. There are
> > other examples like that See?
> 
> Yes, I see that. One level tracking does not provide all the
> information needed to track such issues. Something more informative
> would cost more. That's why our proposal is to have a light-weight
> mechanism to get a high level picture and then be able to zoom into a
> specific area using context capture. If you have ideas to improve
> this, I'm open to suggestions.

Well, I think that a more scalable approach would be to not track in
callers but in the allocator itself. The full stack trace might not be
all that important or interesting and maybe even increase the overall
overhead but a partial one with a configurable depth would sound more
interesting to me. A per cache hastable indexed by stack trace reference
and extending slab metadata to store the reference for kfree path won't
be free but the overhead might be just acceptable.

If the stack unwinding is really too expensive for tracking another
option would be to add code tags dynamically to the compiled
kernel without any actual code changes. I can imagine the tracing
infrastructure could be used for that or maybe even consider compiler
plugins to inject code for functions marked as allocators. So the kernel
could be instrumented even without eny userspace tooling required by
users directly.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-07 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-01 16:54 [PATCH 00/40] Memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 01/40] lib/string_helpers: Drop space in string_get_size's output Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 18:13   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-05-01 19:35     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-01 19:57       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-01 21:16         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-01 21:33         ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-05-02  0:11           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02  0:53         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02  2:22       ` James Bottomley
2023-05-02  3:17         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02  5:33           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-02  6:21             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 15:19               ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03  2:07                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03  6:30                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03  7:12                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03  9:12                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03  9:16                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 11:42           ` James Bottomley
2023-05-02 22:50             ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-03  9:28               ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-05-03  9:44                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03 12:15               ` James Bottomley
2023-05-02  7:55   ` Jani Nikula
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 02/40] scripts/kallysms: Always include __start and __stop symbols Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 03/40] fs: Convert alloc_inode_sb() to a macro Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 12:35   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 19:57     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 20:20       ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 04/40] nodemask: Split out include/linux/nodemask_types.h Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 05/40] prandom: Remove unused include Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 06/40] lib/string.c: strsep_no_empty() Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 12:37   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 07/40] Lazy percpu counters Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 19:17   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 08/40] mm: introduce slabobj_ext to support slab object extensions Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 09/40] mm: introduce __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT flag to selectively prevent slabobj_ext creation Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 12:50   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 18:33     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 10/40] mm/slab: introduce SLAB_NO_OBJ_EXT to avoid obj_ext creation Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 11/40] mm: prevent slabobj_ext allocations for slabobj_ext and kmem_cache objects Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 12/40] slab: objext: introduce objext_flags as extension to page_memcg_data_flags Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 13/40] lib: code tagging framework Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 14/40] lib: code tagging module support Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 15/40] lib: prevent module unloading if memory is not freed Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 16/40] lib: code tagging query helper functions Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 17/40] lib: add allocation tagging support for memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 18/40] lib: introduce support for page allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 19/40] change alloc_pages name in dma_map_ops to avoid name conflicts Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 15:50   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 18:38     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 20:09       ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 20:18         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 20:24         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 20:39           ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 20:41             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 16:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 18:03     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 20/40] mm: enable page allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 21/40] mm/page_ext: enable early_page_ext when CONFIG_MEM_ALLOC_PROFILING_DEBUG=y Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 22/40] mm: create new codetag references during page splitting Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 23/40] lib: add codetag reference into slabobj_ext Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 24/40] mm/slab: add allocation accounting into slab allocation and free paths Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 25/40] mm/slab: enable slab allocation tagging for kmalloc and friends Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 26/40] mm/slub: Mark slab_free_freelist_hook() __always_inline Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 27/40] mempool: Hook up to memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 28/40] timekeeping: Fix a circular include dependency Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 15:50   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 29/40] mm: percpu: Introduce pcpuobj_ext Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 30/40] mm: percpu: Add codetag reference into pcpuobj_ext Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 31/40] mm: percpu: enable per-cpu allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 32/40] arm64: Fix circular header dependency Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 33/40] move stack capture functionality into a separate function for reuse Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 34/40] lib: code tagging context capture support Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03  7:35   ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03 15:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 15:26       ` Dave Hansen
2023-05-03 19:45         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  8:04       ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-04 14:31         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 35/40] lib: implement context capture support for tagged allocations Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03  7:39   ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03 15:24     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  8:09       ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-04 16:22         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-05  8:40           ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-05 18:10             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 36/40] lib: add memory allocations report in show_mem() Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 37/40] codetag: debug: skip objext checking when it's for objext itself Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 38/40] codetag: debug: mark codetags for reserved pages as empty Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 39/40] codetag: debug: introduce OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL to mark failed slab_ext allocations Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 40/40] MAINTAINERS: Add entries for code tagging and memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 17:47 ` [PATCH 00/40] Memory " Roman Gushchin
2023-05-01 18:08   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 18:14     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-05-01 19:37       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-01 21:18         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-05-03  7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03  7:34   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03  7:51     ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03  8:05       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 13:21         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 16:35         ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 17:42           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 18:06             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 17:44           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 17:51           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 18:24             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 18:07           ` Johannes Weiner
2023-05-03 18:19             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 18:40               ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 18:56                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 18:58                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 19:09                     ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 19:41                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 19:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 20:00                           ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 20:14                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  2:25                               ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-04  3:33                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-04  3:33                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  8:00                               ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03 20:08                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 20:11                             ` Johannes Weiner
2023-05-04  2:16                             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 20:04           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2023-05-03  9:50       ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03  9:54         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 10:24           ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03  9:57         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 10:26           ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03 15:30             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 12:33           ` James Bottomley
2023-05-03 14:31             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 15:28             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 15:37               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-03 16:03                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 15:49               ` James Bottomley
2023-05-03 15:09   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 16:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 17:40       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 18:03         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 18:07           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 18:12           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-04  9:07     ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-04 15:08       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-07 10:27         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-05-07 17:01           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-07 17:20       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-07 20:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-07 21:53           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-07 22:09             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-07 22:17               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-08 15:52         ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-08 15:57           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-08 16:09             ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-08 16:28               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-08 18:59                 ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-08 20:48                   ` Kent Overstreet

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