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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: "Tetsuo Handa" <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"SE Linux" <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	LKLM <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"John Johansen" <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Stephen Smalley" <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"Salvatore Mesoraca" <s.mesoraca16@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/19] LSM: Module stacking for SARA and Landlock
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 03:58:52 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1810020352030.9994@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b209d4b8-81a5-30aa-f4d1-9372bbb1b842@schaufler-ca.com>

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018, Casey Schaufler wrote:

> >   How do you plan to handle LKM-based LSMs?
> 
> My position all along has been that I don't plan to handle LKM
> based LSMs, but that I won't do anything to prevent someone else
> from adding them later. I believe that I've done that. Several
> designs, including a separate list for dynamically loaded modules
> have been proposed. I think some of those would work.

Dynamically loadable LSMs are a bad idea, per several previous 
discussions. As a general design concept, kernel security mechanisms 
should be invoked during boot, so we can reason about the overall state of 
the system at a given point.

In any case, we do not need to take dynamic LSMs into account at this 
stage. We don't build infrastructure for non-existent features.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-01 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-21 23:59 [PATCH v4 00/19] LSM: Module stacking for SARA and Landlock Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:16 ` [PATCH v4 01/19] procfs: add smack subdir to attrs Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 02/19] Smack: Abstract use of cred security blob Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:44   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 03/19] SELinux: " Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 04/19] SELinux: Remove cred security blob poisoning Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:43   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-27 22:13   ` James Morris
2018-09-27 22:32     ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 05/19] SELinux: Remove unused selinux_is_enabled Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:43   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 06/19] AppArmor: Abstract use of cred security blob Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:46   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:18 ` [PATCH v4 07/19] TOMOYO: " Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:47   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:18 ` [PATCH v4 08/19] Infrastructure management of the " Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:50   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:18 ` [PATCH v4 09/19] SELinux: Abstract use of file " Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:18 ` [PATCH v4 10/19] Smack: " Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:51   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v4 11/19] LSM: Infrastructure management of the file security Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:53   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v4 12/19] SELinux: Abstract use of inode security blob Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v4 13/19] Smack: " Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v4 14/19] LSM: Infrastructure management of the inode security Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:55   ` Kees Cook
2018-10-03 18:13     ` James Morris
2018-10-04  4:49       ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v4 15/19] LSM: Infrastructure management of the task security Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:56   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v4 16/19] SELinux: Abstract use of ipc security blobs Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:56   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:19 ` [PATCH v4 17/19] Smack: " Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:57   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v4 18/19] LSM: Infrastructure management of the ipc security blob Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  2:58   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-22  0:20 ` [PATCH v4 19/19] LSM: Blob sharing support for S.A.R.A and LandLock Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  0:22 ` [PATCH v4 09/19] SELinux: Abstract use of file security blob Casey Schaufler
2018-09-22  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 00/19] LSM: Module stacking for SARA and Landlock Kees Cook
2018-09-22 16:38   ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-23  2:43     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-23 15:59       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-23 17:09         ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-24  1:53           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-24 17:16             ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-24 17:53               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-24 20:33                 ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-24 15:01           ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-24 16:15             ` Casey Schaufler
2018-09-24 17:22               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-01 17:58           ` James Morris [this message]
2018-09-26 21:57 ` [PATCH v4 20/19] LSM: Correct file blob free empty blob check Casey Schaufler
2018-10-01 20:29   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-26 21:57 ` [PATCH 21/19] LSM: Cleanup and fixes from Tetsuo Handa Casey Schaufler
2018-10-01 21:48   ` Kees Cook
2018-10-12 20:07     ` Kees Cook

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