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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Jaskaran Khurana <jaskarankhurana@linux.microsoft.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, agk@redhat.com,
	snitzer@redhat.com, dm-devel@redhat.com, scottsh@microsoft.com,
	mpatocka@redhat.com, gmazyland@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 0/1] Add dm verity root hash pkcs7 sig validation.
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 21:01:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1906282040490.15624@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190628040041.GB673@sol.localdomain>

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Eric Biggers wrote:

> I don't understand your justification for this feature.
> 
> If userspace has already been pwned severely enough for the attacker to be
> executing arbitrary code with CAP_SYS_ADMIN (which is what the device mapper
> ioctls need), what good are restrictions on loading more binaries from disk?
> 
> Please explain your security model.

Let's say the system has a policy where all code must be signed with a 
valid key, and that one mechanism for enforcing this is via signed 
dm-verity volumes. Validating the signature within the kernel provides 
stronger assurance than userspace validation. The kernel validates and 
executes the code, using kernel-resident keys, and does not need to rely 
on validation which has occurred across a trust boundary.

You don't need arbitrary CAP_SYS_ADMIN code execution, you just need a 
flaw in the app (or its dependent libraries, or configuration) which 
allows signature validation to be bypassed.

The attacker now needs a kernel rather than a userspace vulnerability to 
bypass the signed code policy.

-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-29  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-19 19:10 [RFC PATCH v5 0/1] Add dm verity root hash pkcs7 sig validation Jaskaran Khurana
2019-06-19 19:10 ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/1] " Jaskaran Khurana
2019-06-25 18:20   ` Mike Snitzer
2019-06-26  5:48     ` Milan Broz
2019-08-13 18:49     ` Jaskaran Singh Khurana
2019-06-27 12:17   ` Milan Broz
2019-06-28  1:52     ` Jaskaran Singh Khurana
2019-06-27 23:41   ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-28  1:49     ` Jaskaran Singh Khurana
2019-06-28  3:00       ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-28  5:12         ` Milan Broz
2019-06-28 17:03           ` Jaskaran Singh Khurana
2019-06-28  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH v5 0/1] " Eric Biggers
2019-06-28 19:45   ` Jaskaran Singh Khurana
2019-06-28 20:34     ` Eric Biggers
2019-06-28 23:27       ` Jaskaran Singh Khurana
2019-06-29  4:01   ` James Morris [this message]
2019-07-01  9:41     ` Milan Broz
2019-07-01 17:33       ` Jaskaran Singh Khurana

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