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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Olivier Langlois <olivier@trillion01.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Tony Battersby <tonyb@cybernetics.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] coredump: Limit what can interrupt coredumps
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:06:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca4008f6-91f7-7623-7d15-7d5ef5363cd6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b9f92bf3-77aa-8cdd-6db7-95c86e5a6946@gmail.com>

On 8/16/21 2:02 PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 8/15/21 9:42 PM, Olivier Langlois wrote:
> [...]
>> When I have first encountered the issue, the very first thing that I
>> did try was to create a simple test program that would synthetize the
>> problem.
>>
>> After few time consumming failed attempts, I just gave up the idea and
>> simply settle to my prod program that showcase systematically the
>> problem every time that I kill the process with a SEGV signal.
>>
>> In a nutshell, all the program does is to issue read operations with
>> io_uring on a TCP socket on which there is a constant data stream.
>>
>> Now that I have a better understanding of what is going on, I think
>> that one way that could reproduce the problem consistently could be
>> along those lines:
>>
>> 1. Create a pipe
>> 2. fork a child
>> 3. Initiate a read operation on the pipe with io_uring from the child
>> 4. Let the parent kill its child with a core dump generating signal.
>> 5. Write something in the pipe from the parent so that the io_uring
>> read operation completes while the core dump is generated.
>>
>> I guess that I'll end up doing that if I cannot fix the issue with my
>> current setup but here is what I have attempted so far:
>>
>> 1. Call io_uring_files_cancel from do_coredump
>> 2. Same as #1 but also make sure that TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL is cleared on
>> returning from io_uring_files_cancel
>>
>> Those attempts didn't work but lurking in the io_uring dev mailing list
>> is starting to pay off. I thought that I did reach the bottom of the
>> rabbit hole in my journey of understanding io_uring but the recent
>> patch set sent by Hao Xu
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/90fce498-968e-6812-7b6a-fdf8520ea8d9@kernel.dk/T/#t
>>
>> made me realize that I still haven't assimilated all the small io_uring
>> nuances...
>>
>> Here is my feedback. From my casual io_uring code reader point of view,
>> it is not 100% obvious what the difference is between
>> io_uring_files_cancel and io_uring_task_cancel
> 
> As you mentioned, io_uring_task_cancel() cancels and waits for all
> requests submitted by current task, used in exec() and SQPOLL because
> of potential races.

Apologies for this draft rumbling...

As you mentioned, io_uring_task_cancel() cancels and waits for all
requests submitted by current task, used in exec() and SQPOLL because
of potential races.

io_uring_task_cancel() cancels only selected ones, e.g. in 5.15
will be only requests operating on io_uring, and used during normal
exit.

Agree that the names may be not too descriptive.

>>
>> It seems like io_uring_files_cancel is cancelling polls only if they
>> have the REQ_F_INFLIGHT flag set.
>>
>> I have no idea what an inflight request means and why someone would
>> want to call io_uring_files_cancel over io_uring_task_cancel.
>>
>> I guess that if I was to meditate on the question for few hours, I
>> would at some point get some illumination strike me but I believe that
>> it could be a good idea to document in the code those concepts for
>> helping casual readers...
>>
>> Bottomline, I now understand that io_uring_files_cancel does not cancel
>> all the requests. Therefore, without fully understanding what I am
>> doing, I am going to replace my call to io_uring_files_cancel from
>> do_coredump with io_uring_task_cancel and see if this finally fix the
>> issue for good.
>>
>> What I am trying to do is to cancel pending io_uring requests to make
>> sure that TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL isn't set while core dump is generated.
>>
>> Maybe another solution would simply be to modify __dump_emit to make it
>> resilient to TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL as Eric W. Biederman originally
>> suggested.
>>
>> or maybe do both...
>>
>> Not sure which approach is best. If someone has an opinion, I would be
>> curious to hear it.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
> 

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-16 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <192c9697e379bf084636a8213108be6c3b948d0b.camel@trillion01.com>
     [not found] ` <9692dbb420eef43a9775f425cb8f6f33c9ba2db9.camel@trillion01.com>
     [not found]   ` <87h7i694ij.fsf_-_@disp2133>
2021-06-09 20:33     ` [RFC] coredump: Do not interrupt dump for TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL Linus Torvalds
2021-06-09 20:48       ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-09 20:52         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-09 21:02       ` Olivier Langlois
2021-06-09 21:05         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-09 21:26           ` Olivier Langlois
2021-06-09 21:56             ` Olivier Langlois
2021-06-10 14:26             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-10 15:17               ` Olivier Langlois
2021-06-10 18:58               ` [CFT}[PATCH] coredump: Limit what can interrupt coredumps Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-10 19:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-10 19:18                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-10 19:50                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-10 20:11                       ` [PATCH] " Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-10 21:04                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-12 14:36                         ` Olivier Langlois
2021-06-12 16:26                           ` Jens Axboe
2021-06-14 14:10                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-06-14 16:37                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-14 16:59                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-06-15 22:08                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 19:23                             ` Olivier Langlois
2021-06-16 20:00                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-18 20:05                                 ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-05 13:06                             ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-10 21:48                               ` Tony Battersby
2021-08-11 20:47                                 ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-12  1:55                                 ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-12 13:53                                   ` Tony Battersby
2021-08-15 20:42                                   ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-16 13:02                                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-16 13:06                                       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2021-08-17 18:15                                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-17 18:24                                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-17 19:29                                         ` Tony Battersby
2021-08-17 19:59                                           ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-17 21:28                                             ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-17 21:39                                               ` Tony Battersby
2021-08-17 22:05                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-18 14:37                                                   ` Tony Battersby
2021-08-18 14:46                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-18  2:57                                               ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-18  2:58                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-21 10:08                                                 ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-21 16:47                                                   ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-21 16:51                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-21 17:21                                                       ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-21  9:52                                         ` Olivier Langlois
2021-08-21  9:48                                       ` Olivier Langlois
2021-10-22 14:13     ` [RFC] coredump: Do not interrupt dump for TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-24  1:34       ` Olivier Langlois
2021-12-24 10:37         ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-24 19:52           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-28 11:24             ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-03-14 23:58               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <8218f1a245d054c940e25142fd00a5f17238d078.camel@trillion01.com>
2022-06-01  3:15                   ` Jens Axboe
2022-07-20 16:49                     ` [PATCH 0/2] coredump: Allow io_uring using apps to dump to pipes Eric W. Biederman
2022-07-20 16:50                       ` [PATCH 1/2] signal: Move stopping for the coredump from do_exit into get_signal Eric W. Biederman
2022-07-20 16:51                       ` [PATCH 2/2] coredump: Allow coredumps to pipes to work with io_uring Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-22 21:16                         ` Olivier Langlois
2022-08-23  3:35                           ` Olivier Langlois
2022-08-23 18:22                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-23 18:27                               ` Jens Axboe
2022-08-24 15:11                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-24 15:51                                   ` Jens Axboe
2022-01-05 19:39           ` [RFC] coredump: Do not interrupt dump for TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL Olivier Langlois

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