From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>,
Naohiro Aota <naohiro.aota@wdc.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, dsterba@suse.com
Cc: hare@suse.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 11/41] btrfs: implement log-structured superblock for ZONED mode
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:16:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2976430-83d3-7524-dede-fe46bda14f87@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69855ff1-4737-3d4c-f191-f31f8307fe88@oracle.com>
On 11/24/20 7:46 AM, Anand Jain wrote:
> On 10/11/20 7:26 pm, Naohiro Aota wrote:
>> Superblock (and its copies) is the only data structure in btrfs which
>> has a
>> fixed location on a device. Since we cannot overwrite in a sequential
>> write
>> required zone, we cannot place superblock in the zone. One easy
>> solution is
>> limiting superblock and copies to be placed only in conventional zones.
>> However, this method has two downsides: one is reduced number of
>> superblock
>> copies. The location of the second copy of superblock is 256GB, which
>> is in
>> a sequential write required zone on typical devices in the market today.
>> So, the number of superblock and copies is limited to be two. Second
>> downside is that we cannot support devices which have no conventional
>> zones
>> at all.
>>
>
>
>> To solve these two problems, we employ superblock log writing. It uses
>> two
>> zones as a circular buffer to write updated superblocks. Once the first
>> zone is filled up, start writing into the second buffer. Then, when the
>> both zones are filled up and before start writing to the first zone
>> again,
>> it reset the first zone.
>>
>> We can determine the position of the latest superblock by reading write
>> pointer information from a device. One corner case is when the both zones
>> are full. For this situation, we read out the last superblock of each
>> zone, and compare them to determine which zone is older.
>>
>> The following zones are reserved as the circular buffer on ZONED btrfs.
>>
>> - The primary superblock: zones 0 and 1
>> - The first copy: zones 16 and 17
>> - The second copy: zones 1024 or zone at 256GB which is minimum, and next
>> to it
>
> Superblock log approach needs a non-deterministic and inconsistent
> number of blocks to be read to find copy #0. And, to use 4K bytes
> we are reserving a lot more space. But I don't know any better way.
> I am just checking with you...
>
> At the time of mkfs, is it possible to format the block device to
> add conventional zones as needed to support our sb LBAs?
No. The number of conventional zones (if any) are a drive characteristic
and one cannot assume that the number can be modified.
> OR
> For superblock zones why not reset the write pointer before the
> transaction commit?
>
A write pointer reset is equivalent to clearing the contents of the
zone, so we would lose the previous information there.
HTH.
Cheers,
Hannes
--
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-10 11:26 [PATCH v10 00/41] btrfs: zoned block device support Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 01/41] block: add bio_add_zone_append_page Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 17:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-11 7:20 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 02/41] iomap: support REQ_OP_ZONE_APPEND Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 17:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-10 18:55 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-11-10 19:01 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-11-24 11:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-30 18:11 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-12-01 10:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-12-09 9:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-09 10:08 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-12-09 10:10 ` hch
2020-12-09 10:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-12-09 13:38 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-12-11 7:26 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-12-11 21:24 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-12-12 10:22 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 03/41] btrfs: introduce ZONED feature flag Naohiro Aota
2020-11-19 21:31 ` David Sterba
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 04/41] btrfs: get zone information of zoned block devices Naohiro Aota
2020-11-12 6:57 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-12 7:35 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-11-12 7:44 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-11-12 9:44 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-13 21:34 ` David Sterba
2020-11-12 9:39 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-11-12 12:57 ` Naohiro Aota
2020-11-18 11:17 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-30 11:16 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-25 21:47 ` David Sterba
2020-11-25 22:07 ` David Sterba
2020-11-25 23:50 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-11-26 14:11 ` David Sterba
2020-11-25 22:16 ` David Sterba
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 05/41] btrfs: check and enable ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-18 11:29 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-27 18:44 ` David Sterba
2020-11-30 12:12 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-30 13:15 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-12-01 2:19 ` Anand Jain
2020-12-01 2:29 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-12-01 5:53 ` Anand Jain
2020-12-01 6:09 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-12-01 7:12 ` Anand Jain
2020-12-01 10:45 ` Graham Cobb
2020-12-01 11:03 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-12-01 11:11 ` hch
2020-12-01 11:27 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 06/41] btrfs: introduce max_zone_append_size Naohiro Aota
2020-11-19 9:23 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-27 18:47 ` David Sterba
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 07/41] btrfs: disallow space_cache in ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-19 10:42 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-20 4:08 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 08/41] btrfs: disallow NODATACOW " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-20 4:17 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-23 17:21 ` David Sterba
2020-11-24 3:29 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 09/41] btrfs: disable fallocate " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-20 4:28 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 10/41] btrfs: disallow mixed-bg " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-20 4:32 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 11/41] btrfs: implement log-structured superblock for " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-23 17:46 ` David Sterba
2020-11-24 9:30 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-11-24 6:46 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-24 7:16 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 12/41] btrfs: implement zoned chunk allocator Naohiro Aota
2020-11-24 11:36 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-25 1:57 ` Naohiro Aota
2020-11-25 7:17 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-25 11:48 ` Naohiro Aota
2020-11-25 9:59 ` Graham Cobb
2020-11-25 11:50 ` Naohiro Aota
2020-12-09 5:27 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 13/41] btrfs: verify device extent is aligned to zone Naohiro Aota
2020-11-27 6:27 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 14/41] btrfs: load zone's alloction offset Naohiro Aota
2020-12-08 9:54 ` Anand Jain
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 15/41] btrfs: emulate write pointer for conventional zones Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 16/41] btrfs: track unusable bytes for zones Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 17/41] btrfs: do sequential extent allocation in ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 18/41] btrfs: reset zones of unused block groups Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 19/41] btrfs: redirty released extent buffers in ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 20/41] btrfs: extract page adding function Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 21/41] btrfs: use bio_add_zone_append_page for zoned btrfs Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 22/41] btrfs: handle REQ_OP_ZONE_APPEND as writing Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 23/41] btrfs: split ordered extent when bio is sent Naohiro Aota
2020-11-11 2:01 ` kernel test robot
2020-11-11 2:26 ` kernel test robot
2020-11-11 3:46 ` kernel test robot
2020-11-11 3:46 ` [RFC PATCH] btrfs: extract_ordered_extent() can be static kernel test robot
2020-11-11 4:12 ` [PATCH v10.1 23/41] btrfs: split ordered extent when bio is sent Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 24/41] btrfs: extend btrfs_rmap_block for specifying a device Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 25/41] btrfs: use ZONE_APPEND write for ZONED btrfs Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 26/41] btrfs: enable zone append writing for direct IO Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 27/41] btrfs: introduce dedicated data write path for ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 28/41] btrfs: serialize meta IOs on " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 29/41] btrfs: wait existing extents before truncating Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 30/41] btrfs: avoid async metadata checksum on ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 31/41] btrfs: mark block groups to copy for device-replace Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 32/41] btrfs: implement cloning for ZONED device-replace Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 33/41] btrfs: implement copying " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 34/41] btrfs: support dev-replace in ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 35/41] btrfs: enable relocation " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 36/41] btrfs: relocate block group to repair IO failure in ZONED Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 37/41] btrfs: split alloc_log_tree() Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 38/41] btrfs: extend zoned allocator to use dedicated tree-log block group Naohiro Aota
2020-11-11 4:58 ` [PATCH v10.1 " Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 39/41] btrfs: serialize log transaction on ZONED mode Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 40/41] btrfs: reorder log node allocation Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 11:26 ` [PATCH v10 41/41] btrfs: enable to mount ZONED incompat flag Naohiro Aota
2020-11-10 14:00 ` [PATCH v10 00/41] btrfs: zoned block device support Anand Jain
2020-11-11 5:07 ` Naohiro Aota
2020-11-27 19:28 ` David Sterba
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