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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Kanchan Joshi <joshiiitr@gmail.com>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bcrl@kvack.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	SelvaKumar S <selvakuma.s1@samsung.com>,
	Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>,
	Javier Gonzalez <javier.gonz@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/6] io_uring: add support for zone-append
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:54:53 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f030a338-cd52-2e83-e1da-bdbca910d49e@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+1E3rJ3SoLU9aYcugAQgJnSPnJtcCwjZdMREXS3FTmXgy3yow@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/30/20 11:51 AM, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:10 PM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 30/07/2020 20:16, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 7/30/20 10:26 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> On 30/07/2020 19:13, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> On 7/30/20 10:08 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>> On 27/07/2020 23:34, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/27/20 1:16 PM, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:00 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/24/20 9:49 AM, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/io_uring.c b/fs/io_uring.c
>>>>>>>>>> index 7809ab2..6510cf5 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/fs/io_uring.c
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/fs/io_uring.c
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -1284,8 +1301,15 @@ static void __io_cqring_fill_event(struct io_kiocb *req, long res, long cflags)
>>>>>>>>>>       cqe = io_get_cqring(ctx);
>>>>>>>>>>       if (likely(cqe)) {
>>>>>>>>>>               WRITE_ONCE(cqe->user_data, req->user_data);
>>>>>>>>>> -             WRITE_ONCE(cqe->res, res);
>>>>>>>>>> -             WRITE_ONCE(cqe->flags, cflags);
>>>>>>>>>> +             if (unlikely(req->flags & REQ_F_ZONE_APPEND)) {
>>>>>>>>>> +                     if (likely(res > 0))
>>>>>>>>>> +                             WRITE_ONCE(cqe->res64, req->rw.append_offset);
>>>>>>>>>> +                     else
>>>>>>>>>> +                             WRITE_ONCE(cqe->res64, res);
>>>>>>>>>> +             } else {
>>>>>>>>>> +                     WRITE_ONCE(cqe->res, res);
>>>>>>>>>> +                     WRITE_ONCE(cqe->flags, cflags);
>>>>>>>>>> +             }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This would be nice to keep out of the fast path, if possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was thinking of keeping a function-pointer (in io_kiocb) during
>>>>>>>> submission. That would have avoided this check......but argument count
>>>>>>>> differs, so it did not add up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But that'd grow the io_kiocb just for this use case, which is arguably
>>>>>>> even worse. Unless you can keep it in the per-request private data,
>>>>>>> but there's no more room there for the regular read/write side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h b/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h
>>>>>>>>>> index 92c2269..2580d93 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -156,8 +156,13 @@ enum {
>>>>>>>>>>   */
>>>>>>>>>>  struct io_uring_cqe {
>>>>>>>>>>       __u64   user_data;      /* sqe->data submission passed back */
>>>>>>>>>> -     __s32   res;            /* result code for this event */
>>>>>>>>>> -     __u32   flags;
>>>>>>>>>> +     union {
>>>>>>>>>> +             struct {
>>>>>>>>>> +                     __s32   res;    /* result code for this event */
>>>>>>>>>> +                     __u32   flags;
>>>>>>>>>> +             };
>>>>>>>>>> +             __s64   res64;  /* appending offset for zone append */
>>>>>>>>>> +     };
>>>>>>>>>>  };
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this a compatible change, both for now but also going forward? You
>>>>>>>>> could randomly have IORING_CQE_F_BUFFER set, or any other future flags.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I didn't quite understand the concern. CQE_F_BUFFER is not
>>>>>>>> used/set for write currently, so it looked compatible at this point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not worried about that, since we won't ever use that for writes. But it
>>>>>>> is a potential headache down the line for other flags, if they apply to
>>>>>>> normal writes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, no room for future flags for this operation.
>>>>>>>> Do you see any other way to enable this support in io-uring?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honestly I think the only viable option is as we discussed previously,
>>>>>>> pass in a pointer to a 64-bit type where we can copy the additional
>>>>>>> completion information to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TBH, I hate the idea of such overhead/latency at times when SSDs can
>>>>>> serve writes in less than 10ms. Any chance you measured how long does it
>>>>>
>>>>> 10us? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Hah, 10us indeed :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> take to drag through task_work?
>>>>>
>>>>> A 64-bit value copy is really not a lot of overhead... But yes, we'd
>>>>> need to push the completion through task_work at that point, as we can't
>>>>> do it from the completion side. That's not a lot of overhead, and most
>>>>> notably, it's overhead that only affects this particular type.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not a bad starting point, and something that can always be
>>>>> optimized later if need be. But I seriously doubt it'd be anything to
>>>>> worry about.
>>>>
>>>> I probably need to look myself how it's really scheduled, but if you don't
>>>> mind, here is a quick question: if we do work_add(task) when the task is
>>>> running in the userspace, wouldn't the work execution wait until the next
>>>> syscall/allotted time ends up?
>>>
>>> It'll get the task to enter the kernel, just like signal delivery. The only
>>> tricky part is really if we have a dependency waiting in the kernel, like
>>> the recent eventfd fix.
>>
>> I see, thanks for sorting this out!
> 
> Few more doubts about this (please mark me wrong if that is the case):
> 
> - Task-work makes me feel like N completions waiting to be served by
> single task.
> Currently completions keep arriving and CQEs would be updated with
> result, but the user-space (submitter task) would not be poked.
> 
> - Completion-code will set the task-work. But post that it cannot go
> immediately to its regular business of picking cqe and updating
> res/flags, as we cannot afford user-space to see the cqe before the
> pointer update. So it seems completion-code needs to spawn another
> work which will allocate/update cqe after waiting for pointer-update
> from task-work?

The task work would post the completion CQE for the request after
writing the offset.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-30 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20200724155244epcas5p2902f57e36e490ee8772da19aa9408cdc@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] zone-append support in io-uring and aio Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200724155258epcas5p1a75b926950a18cd1e6c8e7a047e6c589@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49     ` [PATCH v4 1/6] fs: introduce FMODE_ZONE_APPEND and IOCB_ZONE_APPEND Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-24 16:34       ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-26 15:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-28  1:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-28  7:26           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200724155324epcas5p18e1d3b4402d1e4a8eca87d0b56a3fa9b@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49     ` [PATCH v4 2/6] fs: change ki_complete interface to support 64bit ret2 Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-26 15:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200724155329epcas5p345ba6bad0b8fe18056bb4bcd26c10019@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49     ` [PATCH v4 3/6] uio: return status with iov truncation Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200724155341epcas5p15bfc55927f2abb60f19784270fe8e377@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49     ` [PATCH v4 4/6] block: add zone append handling for direct I/O path Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-26 15:19       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200724155346epcas5p2cfb383fe9904a45280c6145f4c13e1b4@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49     ` [PATCH v4 5/6] block: enable zone-append for iov_iter of bvec type Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-26 15:20       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200724155350epcas5p3b8f1d59eda7f8fbb38c828f692d42fd6@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49     ` [PATCH v4 6/6] io_uring: add support for zone-append Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-24 16:29       ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-27 19:16         ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-27 20:34           ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30 16:08             ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-30 16:13               ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30 16:26                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-30 17:16                   ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30 17:38                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-30 17:51                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-30 17:54                         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-07-30 18:25                           ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-31  6:42                             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31  6:45                               ` hch
2020-07-31  6:59                                 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31  7:58                                   ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-31  8:14                                     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31  9:14                                       ` hch
2020-07-31  9:34                                         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31  9:41                                           ` hch
2020-07-31 10:16                                             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31 12:51                                               ` hch
2020-07-31 13:08                                                 ` hch
2020-07-31 15:07                                                   ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-02 20:47                                                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-08-05  7:35                                                 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-08-14  8:14                                                   ` hch
2020-08-14  8:27                                                     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-08-14 12:04                                                       ` hch
2020-08-14 12:20                                                         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-09-07  7:01                                                     ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-09-08 15:18                                                       ` hch
2020-09-24 17:19                                                         ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-09-25  2:52                                                           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-09-28 18:58                                                             ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-09-29  1:24                                                               ` Damien Le Moal
2020-09-29 18:49                                                                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-02 20:43                                                         ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-07-31  9:38                                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-02 20:51                                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-07-31  7:08                               ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-30 15:57       ` Pavel Begunkov

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