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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/6] libnvdimm: nd_region flush callback support
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:51:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x497ebm82d4.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4jPOF_+R6U17J_+88+X8LC-LSPCugA6gbKxuphuuFB2gg@mail.gmail.com> (Dan Williams's message of "Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:14:59 -0700")

Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> writes:

> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 9:18 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 09:05:05AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > > > I'd either add a comment about avoiding retpoline overhead here or just
>> > > > make ->flush == NULL mean generic_nvdimm_flush(). Just so that people don't
>> > > > get confused by the code.
>> > >
>> > > Isn't this premature optimization?  I really don't like adding things
>> > > like this without some numbers to show it's worth it.
>> >
>> > I don't think it's premature given this optimization technique is
>> > already being deployed elsewhere, see:
>> >
>> > https://lwn.net/Articles/774347/
>>
>> For one this one was backed by numbers, and second after feedback
>> from Linux we switched to the NULL pointer check instead.
>
> Ok I should have noticed the switch to NULL pointer check. However,
> the question still stands do we want everyone to run numbers to
> justify this optimization, or make it a new common kernel coding
> practice to do:
>
>     if (!object->op)
>         generic_op(object);
>     else
>         object->op(object);
>
> ...in hot paths?

I don't think nvdimm_flush is a hot path.  Numbers of some
representative workload would prove one of us right.

-Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-22 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-10  4:08 [PATCH v5 0/6] virtio pmem driver Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10  4:08 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] libnvdimm: nd_region flush callback support Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-11 14:51   ` Dan Williams
2019-04-11 15:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-11 16:09       ` Dan Williams
2019-04-11 16:23         ` Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-12  8:32     ` Jan Kara
2019-04-12 13:12       ` Jeff Moyer
2019-04-18  6:27         ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-18 16:05         ` Dan Williams
2019-04-18 16:10           ` Jeff Moyer
2019-04-18 16:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-18 18:14             ` Dan Williams
2019-04-22 15:51               ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2019-04-22 19:44                 ` Dan Williams
2019-04-22 21:03                   ` Jeff Moyer
2019-04-23  4:07                     ` Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10  4:08 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] virtio-pmem: Add virtio pmem driver Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10 12:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-10 14:38     ` Yuval Shaia
2019-04-10 15:44       ` Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10 15:38     ` Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10 13:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-04-10 14:03     ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10 14:31       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-10 16:46         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-04-10 16:52           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-10 14:41   ` Yuval Shaia
2019-04-10  4:08 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] libnvdimm: add dax_dev sync flag Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10  8:28   ` Jan Kara
2019-04-10  8:38     ` Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-11 14:56   ` Dan Williams
2019-04-11 15:39     ` Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10  4:08 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] dax: check synchronous mapping is supported Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10  8:25   ` Jan Kara
2019-04-10  8:31     ` Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10  4:08 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] ext4: disable map_sync for async flush Pankaj Gupta
2019-04-10  4:08 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] xfs: " Pankaj Gupta

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