From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 02/15] livepatch: avoid position-based search if `-z unique-symbol` is available
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:10:00 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220214181000.xln2qgyzgswjxwcz@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220214122433.288910-1-alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 01:24:33PM +0100, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> > One idea I mentioned before, it may be worth exploring changing the "F"
> > in FGKASLR to "File" instead of "Function". In other words, only
> > shuffle at an object-file granularity. Then, even with duplicates, the
> > <file+function> symbol pair doesn't change in the symbol table. And as
> > a bonus, it should help FGKASLR i-cache performance, significantly.
>
> Yeah, I keep that in mind. However, this wouldn't solve the
> duplicate static function names problem, right?
> Let's say you have a static function f() in file1 and f() in file2,
> then the layout each boot can be
>
> .text.file1 or .text.file2
> f() f()
> .text.file2 .text.file1
> f() f()
>
> and position-based search won't work anyway, right?
Right, so we'd have to abandon position-based search in favor of
file+func based search.
It's not perfect because there are still a few file+func duplicates.
But it might be good enough. We would presumably just refuse to patch a
duplicate. Or we could remove them (and enforce their continued removal
with tooling-based warnings).
Another variant of this which I described here
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210125172124.awabevkpvq4poqxf@treble/
would be to keep it function-granular, but have kallsyms keep track of
what file each func belongs to. Then livepatch could still do the
file+func based search.
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-14 18:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-09 18:57 [PATCH v10 00/15] Function Granular KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 01/15] modpost: fix removing numeric suffixes Alexander Lobakin
2022-05-03 0:57 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-05-03 7:31 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-23 18:04 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-05-24 11:33 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-05-24 13:40 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 02/15] livepatch: avoid position-based search if `-z unique-symbol` is available Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-11 17:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-11 18:05 ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2022-02-11 18:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-14 12:24 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-14 18:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2022-02-16 20:32 ` Joe Lawrence
2022-02-16 22:13 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-16 15:15 ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-16 20:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:31 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-18 20:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-14 12:14 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-14 18:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-16 15:06 ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-16 19:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-17 7:45 ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 03/15] kallsyms: randomize /proc/kallsyms output order Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 04/15] arch: introduce asm function sections Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 05/15] x86: support " Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-11 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 11:49 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 06/15] x86: decouple ORC table sorting into a separate file Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 07/15] Makefile: add config options and build scripts for FG-KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 08/15] x86/tools: Add relative relocs for randomized functions Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 09/15] x86: Add support for function granular KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 10/15] FG-KASLR: use a scripted approach to handle .text.* sections Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-11 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 11:34 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-14 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 12:30 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 11/15] x86/boot: allow FG-KASLR to be selected Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 12/15] module: add arch-indep FG-KASLR for randomizing function layout Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 13/15] module: use a scripted approach for FG-KASLR Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 14/15] Documentation: add documentation " Alexander Lobakin
2022-02-09 18:57 ` [PATCH v10 15/15] maintainers: add MAINTAINERS entry " Alexander Lobakin
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