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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 7/7] fs/proc/kcore: use page_offline_(freeze|unfreeze)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 10:28:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a5a7552-4f0a-75bc-582f-73d24afcf57b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YI5H4yV/c6ReuIDt@kernel.org>

On 02.05.21 08:34, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 02:25:19PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> Let's properly synchronize with drivers that set PageOffline(). Unfreeze
>> every now and then, so drivers that want to set PageOffline() can make
>> progress.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>   fs/proc/kcore.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/fs/proc/kcore.c b/fs/proc/kcore.c
>> index 92ff1e4436cb..3d7531f47389 100644
>> --- a/fs/proc/kcore.c
>> +++ b/fs/proc/kcore.c
>> @@ -311,6 +311,7 @@ static void append_kcore_note(char *notes, size_t *i, const char *name,
>>   static ssize_t
>>   read_kcore(struct file *file, char __user *buffer, size_t buflen, loff_t *fpos)
>>   {
>> +	size_t page_offline_frozen = 0;
>>   	char *buf = file->private_data;
>>   	size_t phdrs_offset, notes_offset, data_offset;
>>   	size_t phdrs_len, notes_len;
>> @@ -509,6 +510,18 @@ read_kcore(struct file *file, char __user *buffer, size_t buflen, loff_t *fpos)
>>   			pfn = __pa(start) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
>>   			page = pfn_to_online_page(pfn);
> 
> Can't this race with page offlining for the first time we get here?


To clarify, we have three types of offline pages in the kernel ...

a) Pages part of an offline memory section; the memap is stale and not 
trustworthy. pfn_to_online_page() checks that. We *can* protect against 
memory offlining using get_online_mems()/put_online_mems(), but usually 
avoid doing so as the race window is very small (and a problem all over 
the kernel we basically never hit) and locking is rather expensive. In 
the future, we might switch to rcu to handle that more efficiently and 
avoiding these possible races.

b) PageOffline(): logically offline pages contained in an online memory 
section with a sane memmap. virtio-mem calls these pages "fake offline"; 
something like a "temporary" memory hole. The new mechanism I propose 
will be used to handle synchronization as races can be more severe, 
e.g., when reading actual page content here.

c) Soft offline pages: hwpoisoned pages that are not actually harmful 
yet, but could become harmful in the future. So we better try to remove 
the page from the page allcoator and try to migrate away existing users.


So page_offline_* handle "b) PageOffline()" only. There is a tiny race 
between pfn_to_online_page(pfn) and looking at the memmap as we have in 
many cases already throughout the kernel, to be tackled in the future.


(A better name for PageOffline() might make sense; PageSoftOffline() 
would be catchy but interferes with c). PageLogicallyOffline() is ugly; 
PageFakeOffline() might do)

>   
>> +			/*
>> +			 * Don't race against drivers that set PageOffline()
>> +			 * and expect no further page access.
>> +			 */
>> +			if (page_offline_frozen == MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) {
>> +				page_offline_unfreeze();
>> +				page_offline_frozen = 0;
>> +				cond_resched();
>> +			}
>> +			if (!page_offline_frozen++)
>> +				page_offline_freeze();
>> +
> 
> Don't we need to freeze before doing pfn_to_online_page()?

See my explanation above. Thanks!

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29 12:25 [PATCH v1 0/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 1/7] fs/proc/kcore: drop KCORE_REMAP and KCORE_OTHER David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 2/7] fs/proc/kcore: pfn_is_ram check only applies to KCORE_RAM David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 3/7] mm: rename and move page_is_poisoned() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-05 13:13   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:27       ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:45           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  1:08             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  0:56         ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:06           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  7:28             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:55               ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  8:52                 ` Aili Yao
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 4/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 5/7] mm: introduce page_offline_(begin|end|freeze|unfreeze) to synchronize setting PageOffline() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:24   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 15:10     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 17:41       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 6/7] virtio-mem: use page_offline_(start|end) when " David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03  8:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 7/7] fs/proc/kcore: use page_offline_(freeze|unfreeze) David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:34   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:28     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-05-03  9:28       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 10:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03 11:33           ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 11:35             ` David Hildenbrand

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