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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	Tianyu Lan <lantianyu1986@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Tianyu Lan <Tianyu.Lan@microsoft.com>,
	"linux-arch\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-hyperv\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger kernel org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/2] clocksource/Hyper-V: Add Hyper-V specific sched clock function
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 10:54:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imqqrj97.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o90jq99w.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com>

Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com> writes:

> Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com> writes:
>
>> I talked to KY Srinivasan for any history about TSC page on 32-bit.  He said
>> there was no technical reason not to implement it, but our focus was always
>> 64-bit Linux, so the 32-bit was much less important.  Also, on 32-bit Linux,
>> the required 64x64 multiply and shift is more complex and takes more
>> more cycles (compare 32-bit implementation of mul_u64_u64_shr vs.
>> the 64-bit implementation), so the win over a MSR read is less.  I
>> don't know of any actual measurements being made to compare vs.
>> MSR read.
>
> VMExit is 1000 CPU cycles or so, I would guess that TSC page
> calculations are better. Let me try to build 32bit kernel and do some
> quick measurements.

So I tried and the difference is HUGE.

For in-kernel clocksource reads (like sched_clock()), the testing code
was:

        before = rdtsc_ordered();
        for (i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
             (void)read_hv_sched_clock_msr();
        after = rdtsc_ordered();
        printk("MSR based clocksource: %d cycles\n", ((u32)(after - before))/1000);

        before = rdtsc_ordered();
        for (i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
            (void)read_hv_sched_clock_tsc();
        after = rdtsc_ordered();
        printk("TSC page clocksource: %d cycles\n", ((u32)(after - before))/1000);

The result (WS2016) is:
[    1.101910] MSR based clocksource: 3361 cycles
[    1.105224] TSC page clocksource: 49 cycles

For userspace reads the absolute difference is even bigger as TSC page
gives us functional vDSO:

Testing code:
	before = rdtsc();
	for (i = 0; i < COUNT; i++)
		clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, &tp);
	after = rdtsc();
	printf("%d\n", (after - before)/COUNT);

Result:

TSC page:
# ./gettime_cycles 
131

MSR:
# ./gettime_cycles 
5664

With all that I see no reason for us to not enable TSC page on 32bit,
even if the number of users is negligible, this will allow us to get rid
of ugly #ifdef CONFIG_HYPERV_TSCPAGE in the code.

I'll send a patch for discussion.

-- 
Vitaly

      reply	other threads:[~2019-08-21  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29  7:52 [PATCH 0/2] clocksource/Hyper-V: Add Hyper-V specific sched clock function lantianyu1986
2019-07-29  7:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] clocksource/Hyper-v: Allocate Hyper-V tsc page statically lantianyu1986
2019-08-12 18:39   ` Michael Kelley
2019-07-29  7:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] clocksource/Hyper-V: Add Hyper-V specific sched clock function lantianyu1986
2019-08-12 18:41   ` Michael Kelley
2019-07-29 10:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-07-29 11:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 12:13     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-07-30 13:41       ` Tianyu Lan
2019-08-12 19:22         ` Michael Kelley
2019-08-13  8:33           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-08-20 14:32             ` Michael Kelley
2019-08-21  7:15               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-08-21  8:54                 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]

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