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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Cc: Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
	KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	"linux-hyperv\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 02/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Don't bind the offer&rescind works to a specific CPU
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:24:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8se2fpr.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MW2PR2101MB1052A2E44557B29C191F557DD7CA0@MW2PR2101MB1052.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>

Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com> writes:

> From: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:09 AM
>> 
>> > In case we believe that OFFER -> RESCINF sequence is always ordered
>> > by the host AND we don't care about other offers in the queue the
>> > suggested locking is OK: we're guaranteed to process RESCIND after we
>> > finished processing OFFER for the same channel. However, waiting for
>> > 'offer_in_progress == 0' looks fishy so I'd suggest we at least add a
>> > comment explaining that the wait is only needed to serialize us with
>> > possible OFFER for the same channel - and nothing else. I'd personally
>> > still slightly prefer the algorythm I suggested as it guarantees we take
>> > channel_mutex with offer_in_progress == 0 -- even if there are no issues
>> > we can think of today (not strongly though).
>> 
>> Does it?  offer_in_progress is incremented without channel_mutex...
>> 

No, it does not, you're right, by itself the change is insufficient.

>> IAC, I have no objections to apply the changes you suggested.  To avoid
>> misunderstandings: vmbus_bus_suspend() presents a similar usage...  Are
>> you suggesting that I apply similar changes there?
>> 
>> Alternatively:  FWIW, the comment in vmbus_onoffer_rescind() does refer
>> to "The offer msg and the corresponding rescind msg...".  I am all ears
>> if you have any concrete suggestions to improve these comments.
>> 
>
> Given that waiting for 'offer_in_progress == 0' is the current code, I think
> there's an argument to made for not changing it if the change isn't strictly
> necessary.  This patch set introduces enough change that *is* necessary. :-)
>

Sure. I was thinking a bit more about this and it seems that over years
we've made the synchronization of channels code too complex (every time
for a good reason but still). Now (before this series) we have at least:

vmbus_connection.channel_mutex
vmbus_connection.offer_in_progress
channel.probe_done
channel.rescind
Workqueues (vmbus_connection.work_queue,
 queue_work_on(vmbus_connection.connect_cpu),...)
channel.lock spinlock (the least of the problems)

Maybe there's room for improvement? Out of top of my head I'd suggest a
state machine for each channel (e.g something like
OFFERED->OPENING->OPEN->RESCIND_REQ->RESCINDED->CLOSED) + refcounting
(subchannels, open/rescind/... requests in progress, ...) + non-blocking
request handling like "Can we handle this rescind offer now? No,
refcount is too big. OK, rescheduling the work". Maybe not the best
design ever and I'd gladly support any other which improves the
readability of the code and makes all state changes and synchronization
between them more obvious.

Note, VMBus channel handling driven my messages (unlike events for ring
buffer) is not performance critical, we just need to ensure completeness
(all requests are handled correctly) with forward progress guarantees
(no deadlocks).

I understand the absence of 'hot' issues in the current code is what can
make the virtue of redesign questionable and sorry for hijacking the
series which doesn't seem to make things worse :-)

-- 
Vitaly


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-30 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-25 22:54 [RFC PATCH 00/11] VMBus channel interrupt reassignment Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-25 22:54 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Always handle the VMBus messages on CPU0 Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-26 14:05   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-03-28 18:50     ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-25 22:54 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Don't bind the offer&rescind works to a specific CPU Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-26 14:16   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-03-26 15:47     ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-26 17:26       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-03-28 17:08         ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-29  3:43           ` Michael Kelley
2020-03-30 12:24             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2020-04-03 12:04               ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-25 22:54 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Replace the per-CPU channel lists with a global array of channels Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-26 14:31   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-03-26 17:05     ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-26 17:43       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-03-28 18:21         ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-29  3:49           ` Michael Kelley
2020-03-30 12:45           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-04-03 13:38             ` Andrea Parri
2020-04-03 14:56               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-03-25 22:54 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] hv_netvsc: Disable NAPI before closing the VMBus channel Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-26 15:26   ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-03-26 17:55     ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-25 22:54 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] hv_utils: Always execute the fcopy and vss callbacks in a tasklet Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-25 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Use a spin lock for synchronizing channel scheduling vs. channel removal Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-25 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] PCI: hv: Prepare hv_compose_msi_msg() for the VMBus-channel-interrupt-to-vCPU reassignment functionality Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-25 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Remove the unused HV_LOCALIZED channel affinity logic Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-25 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Synchronize init_vp_index() vs. CPU hotplug Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-25 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Introduce the CHANNELMSG_MODIFYCHANNEL message type Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-26 14:46   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-03-28 18:48     ` Andrea Parri
2020-04-03 14:55       ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-25 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] scsi: storvsc: Re-init stor_chns when a channel interrupt is re-assigned Andrea Parri (Microsoft)
2020-03-30 16:42   ` Michael Kelley
2020-03-30 18:55     ` Andrea Parri
2020-03-30 19:49       ` Michael Kelley
2020-04-03 13:41         ` Andrea Parri

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