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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@kernel.org>
To: Jie Deng <jie.deng@intel.com>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	jasowang@redhat.com, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	conghui.chen@intel.com, arnd@arndb.de, kblaiech@mellanox.com,
	jarkko.nikula@linux.intel.com, Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru,
	rppt@kernel.org, loic.poulain@linaro.org, tali.perry1@gmail.com,
	u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de, bjorn.andersson@linaro.org,
	yu1.wang@intel.com, shuo.a.liu@intel.com,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10] i2c: virtio: add a virtio i2c frontend driver
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 10:39:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YNmK0MP5ffQpiipt@ninjato> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <226a8d5663b7bb6f5d06ede7701eedb18d1bafa1.1616493817.git.jie.deng@intel.com>

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Hi,

sorry for the long delay. I am not familiar with VFIO, so I had to dive
into the topic a little first. I am still not seeing through it
completely, so I have very high-level questions first.

> The device specification can be found on
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/202101/msg00008.html.

I think we need to start here:

===

If ``length of \field{read_buf}''=0 and ``length of \field{write_buf}''>0,
the request is called write request.

If ``length of \field{read_buf}''>0 and ``length of \field{write_buf}''=0,
the request is called read request.

If ``length of \field{read_buf}''>0 and ``length of \field{write_buf}''>0,
the request is called write-read request. It means an I2C write segment followed
by a read segment. Usually, the write segment provides the number of an I2C
controlled device register to be read.

===

I2C transactions can have an arbitrary number of messages which can
arbitrarily be read or write. As I understand the above, only one read,
write or read-write transaction is supported. If that is the case, it
would be not very much I2C but more SMBus. If my assumptions are true,
we first need to decide if you want to go the I2C way or SMBus subset.

But maybe I need to undestand the following paragraph first:

===

A driver may send one request or multiple requests to the device at a time.
The requests in the virtqueue are both queued and processed in order.

===

What happens if those multiple requests are sent out to the I2C bus
master driver on the host? Is there one transaction with N messages or
are there N transfers with 1 message each. This is a difference in I2C
world (REP_START vs. STOP/START) and some devices really need this
properly handled or they won't work.

===

The case when ``length of \field{write_buf}''=0, and at the same time,
``length of \field{read_buf}''=0 doesn't make any sense.

===

Oh, it does. That's a legal transfer, both in SMBus and I2C. It is used
to e.g. discover devices. I think it should be supported, even though
not all bus master drivers on the host can support it. Is it possible?

Also, as I read it, a whole bus is para-virtualized to the guest, or?
Wouldn't it be better to allow just specific devices on a bus? Again, I
am kinda new to this, so I may have overlooked things.

Thanks and happy hacking,

   Wolfram


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-28  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-23 14:19 [PATCH v10] i2c: virtio: add a virtio i2c frontend driver Jie Deng
2021-03-23  7:27 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-23  8:33   ` Jie Deng
2021-03-23  8:37     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-23  9:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-24  1:17       ` Jie Deng
2021-03-24  4:00         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-04-15  6:45       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-04-15  6:56         ` Jie Deng
2021-04-15  7:15           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-04-15  7:21           ` Wolfram Sang
2021-04-15  7:24             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-04-15  7:28               ` Wolfram Sang
2021-04-15  7:37                 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-04-15  8:15                 ` Jie Deng
2021-04-15  8:18                   ` Wolfram Sang
2021-04-15  8:20                     ` Jie Deng
2021-05-27  6:49                     ` Jie Deng
2021-05-12  1:37             ` Jie Deng
2021-03-23  9:01 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-23  9:38   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-24  0:53     ` Jie Deng
2021-03-24  3:52       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-24  4:00         ` Jie Deng
2021-03-24  4:02           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-24  4:20 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-24  6:05   ` Jie Deng
2021-03-24  6:09     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-24  6:41       ` Jie Deng
2021-03-24  6:44         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-04-14  2:07 ` Jie Deng
2021-04-14  3:52   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-04-15  6:25     ` Jie Deng
2021-04-15  3:51 ` Jason Wang
2021-04-15  6:17   ` Jie Deng
2021-06-28  8:39 ` Wolfram Sang [this message]
2021-06-28  9:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-28  9:25     ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-28  9:51       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-28 10:13         ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-28 11:50           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-28 14:58             ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29  3:04               ` Jie Deng
2021-06-29  8:30                 ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29  9:13                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29  9:36                     ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29  4:10               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29  8:27                 ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29  8:52                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29  9:07                     ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-30 14:38                 ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-30 15:09                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29  3:03     ` Jie Deng
2021-06-29 10:07 ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29 10:16   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29 10:23     ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29 10:30       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29 10:42         ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29 10:43           ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29 10:56             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29 11:11               ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-29 11:16                 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-29 11:48                   ` Wolfram Sang
2021-07-05 12:18             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-06  1:50               ` Jie Deng
2021-07-22 15:15               ` Wolfram Sang
2021-07-23  2:28                 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-23  5:28                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-30  6:45   ` Jie Deng
2021-06-30  7:32     ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-30  7:51       ` Jie Deng
2021-06-30  7:55         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-30  8:04           ` Wolfram Sang
2021-06-30  8:07           ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-06-30  8:29             ` Arnd Bergmann

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